Does Raging Throw Damage stack with Merciless Rush?


Rules Questions

Lantern Lodge

Raging Throw:
While raging, when you attempt a bull rush combat maneuver, you can spend 1 additional round of your rage as a swift action to add your Constitution bonus on your combat maneuver check to the bull rush. Further, if you bull rush an opponent into a square another creature occupies or into a solid object, the opponent and the creature or object take bludgeoning damage equal to your Strength modifier + your Constitution modifier.

Merciless Rush:
When you bull rush a creature and your check exceeds the target's CMD by 5 or more, you deal damage equal to your Strength modifier to that target.

FAQ:
Do ability modifiers from the same ability stack? For instance, can you add the same ability bonus on the same roll twice using two different effects that each add that same ability modifier?
No. An ability bonus, such as "Strength bonus", is considered to be the same source for the purpose of bonuses from the same source not stacking. However, you can still add, for instance “a deflection bonus equal to your Charisma modifier” and your Charisma modifier. For this purpose, however, the paladin's untyped "bonus equal to her Charisma bonus (if any) on all saving throws" from divine grace is considered to be the same as "Charisma bonus (if any)", and the same would be true for any other untyped "bonus equal to her [ability score] bonus" constructions.

Raging Throw and Merciless Rush both include strength damage as an "untyped" bonus to damage. However, neither of these abilities use a damage roll (no rolling is done). Also, they occur in two distinct situations. Do I deal 2x strength damage when I exceed a target's CMD by 5 or more -and- knock them into a wall?

EDIT: fixed broken/wrong tags


Yes, and no. You get both benefits, but the are triggered separately, so the don't actually stack. Merciless rush triggers on the cmb roll, and raging throw triggers at the end of the bullrush movement. DR would apply to each instance of damage.

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Rules Questions / Does Raging Throw Damage stack with Merciless Rush? All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.