Vigilante Dual alignment


Rules Questions


I couldn't find this addressed anywhere:

P. 10 of ultimate intrigue says:
"A vigilante’s two alignments cannot be more than one step
from each other on a single alignment axis. For example, a
vigilante with a lawful neutral social identity could have a
vigilante identity that is lawful good, lawful neutral, lawful
evil, neutral, neutral good, or neutral evil."

But according to the core rules Neutral Good and Neutral Evil would be two steps away since they are diagonal on the table:

Core Rules p.166

"Occasionally the rules refer to “steps” when dealing with alignment. In this case, “steps” refers to the number of alignment shifts between the two alignments, as shown on the following diagram. Note that diagonal “steps” count as two steps. For example, a lawful neutral character is one step away from a lawful good alignment, and three steps away from a chaotic evil alignment. A cleric's alignment must be within one step of the alignment of her deity."

you can see the table here: http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/coreRulebook/additionalRules.html

Am I missing something?


Yeah, from the section you just quoted:

Quote:
one step from each other on a single alignment axis.

It's not 'must be within one step', it's 'must be within one step on each alignment axis'. Which means you can take an alignment that is two steps away as long as each component is only one step away.


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Explicitly:

If one of your identities is Lawful, your other identity can be Lawful or Neutral.
If one of your identities is Neutral, your other identity can be Lawful, Neutral, or Chaotic.
If one of your identities is Chaotic, your other identity can be Neutral or Chaotic.

If one of your identities is Good, your other identity can be Good or Neutral.
If one of your identities is Neutral, your other identity can be Good, Neutral, or Evil.
If one of your identities is Evil, your other identity can be Neutral or Evil.

A true neutral vigilante can have a second identity that is literally any alignment.


Squiggit wrote:

Yeah, from the section you just quoted:

Quote:
one step from each other on a single alignment axis.
It's not 'must be within one step', it's 'must be within one step on each alignment axis'. Which means you can take an alignment that is two steps away as long as each component is only one step away.

OK so Lawful is one step away for Neutral and Neutral is one step away for good and evil. I think I got it. I had to re-read that like ten times before I could wrap my brain around it. They don't talk about single components in the alignment steps section so that's what was confusing me. Thanks.


PossibleCabbage wrote:

Explicitly:

If one of your identities is Lawful, your other identity can be Lawful or Neutral.
If one of your identities is Neutral, your other identity can be Lawful, Neutral, or Chaotic.
If one of your identities is Chaotic, your other identity can be Neutral or Chaotic.

If one of your identities is Good, your other identity can be Good or Neutral.
If one of your identities is Neutral, your other identity can be Good, Neutral, or Evil.
If one of your identities is Evil, your other identity can be Neutral or Evil.

A true neutral vigilante can have a second identity that is literally any alignment.

That's way more clear to me now thanks PossibleCabbage for helping me make sense of that.

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