Arcane Bolt + Dazing spell = ?


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Scarab Sages

Arcane Bolt wrote:

Arcane Bolt (Sp): Starting at 1st level, you can unleash a ray of magic force as a standard action, targeting any foe within 30 feet as a ranged touch attack. This ray deals 1d4 points of damage + 1 for every two sorcerer levels you possess. This damage is treated as a spell of a level equal to half your sorcerer level, and is a force effect. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your (see FAQ/Errata) Charisma modifier.

This bloodline power replaces arcane bond.

relevant FAQ referenced by text above:
Does a sorcerer with the sage bloodline use her Int or Cha to determine uses per day of arcane bolt?

The sage sorcerer uses her Int to determine the number of daily uses of her bloodline powers, including arcane bolt. Therefore, whether arcane bolt lists Int or Cha, the sage sorcerer still uses her Int. The bloodline power lists Cha because that's the standard terminology for sorcerer bloodlines (because all other sorcerers use Cha), and because there may be a way for a non-sorcerer to gain access to that bloodline power, in which case it should be based on Cha (like other sorcerer bloodline powers) instead of Int.

Dazing Spell wrote:

You can modify a spell to daze a creature damaged by the spell. When a creature takes damage from this spell, they become dazed for a number of rounds equal to the original level of the spell. If the spell allows a saving throw, a successful save negates the daze effect. If the spell does not allow a save, the target can make a Will save to negate the daze effect. If the spell effect also causes the creature to become dazed, the duration of this metamagic effect is added to the duration of the spell.

Level Increase: +3 (a dazing spell uses up a spell slot three levels higher than the spell’s actual level.

Spells that do not inflict damage do not benefit from this feat.

So, my questions is, due to the bolded above, could one use the Dazing Spell metamagic feat with Arcane Bolt? I know it says the Damage counts as a x level spell, but I'm not sure what the difference is between the damage being of a level and a spell being of a level. Is there a difference? Because if not then I just found a 9/day touch attack daze for my Sage Sorcerer.


No.


No, you can't apply Dazing Spell to Arcane Bolt. Arcane Bolt is a Spell-Like Ability, and you can only apply metamagic feats to spells. The reason Arcane Bolt has a level is for stuff like Rod of Absorption and Globe of Invulnerability, which affect both spells and SLAs and are affected by the spell level.

Scarab Sages

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I get it. Thanks.

And thanks to you, Abraham, for your brevity. :)


If the answer was yes, how would you ever cast it???

1/2 class level (bolt spell level) + 3 spell levels=???

1st level + 3 = 4 level spell (1st level caster has no 4 level spell slots)

10th level + 3 = 8 level spell (10th level caster has no 8th level spell slots)

Scarab Sages

I don't know. It was a half baked theory and I see that now. Thus the virtual disapproving head shake I got from Mr Spalding up there (which I totally deserved).

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