Charles,
yeah that incorporation from a previous WW run didn't sit well with me. Especially after all that crap with Donna.
But the Key seemed more competent than usual. Which is good!
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Freehold,
Wrong thread for super teams that are DC Super teams...
But yes.
Might be the wrong thread but jetstone asked for the very first real hero-team book and that must not necessarily be a DC one.
In my case it was the #25 Super Friends issue from 1979, though I read it probably some years later, as it was the german translation. I'm not totally sure about that, because only one year later, the Dark Phoenix saga was published and that's what introduced me to the X-Men (again, german translation), but I still remember the cover, and I mostly had read Disney comics and a lot of european comics (Asterix, Tin Tin, Spirou etc.) before, so you might be able to imagine how impressed I was by this one.
Charles, yeah. New Key good. Other stuff... not so much.
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Freehold,
Wrong thread for super teams that are DC Super teams...
But yes.
in that case, LONG LIVE THE LEGION!
Brainy says you've earned this.
I'd say he's earned it, Jem.
Still think we haven't see the last of Key's new mystery partner.
I've never doubted Freehold's dedication to the Legion. It honestly gives me life.
Not in a creepy space-vampire kind of way, though.
I swear.
Pretty sure Key's mystery partner is blue and lives on Mars, myself.
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I actually already have a flight ring. I am considering getting another as a backup . The remaining rings on my right hand are all green lantern rings.
Charles,
Thanks for finding out that one. I'm still not sure who the other guy is. But if I find out I'll let you know.
So Superman update! Batman update! Green Lantern update! No Legion Update! JL update!
Also I think Lois is ready to go back to work with while still being a mom.
Batman wise, beating up Bane after getting the snot kicked out of him,
proves that Bane still is powerful, but not stronger than Batman.
Green Lanterns, still trying to deal with the fact there more than 5 lanterns. Also apparently Jon Stewart tenure as leader of the Corps is probably more likely to last than either Guy's, Kyle's or even Hal's.
Justice League is STILL trying desperately to catch up but at least now there might be hints of Legion...at least if the other three unknowns that are helping Batman are who I think they are.
If you're talking about the people with the stones...
Aren't they Infinity Inc? It's pretty obvious that one kid is supposed to be Brainwave Junior.
Jem,
I am but...
Charles,
Source?
Jem,
I am but...
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One of them is Lex Luthor's potential daughter. One mentions that he and his father both have mental powers... Not sure about the third.
And they're in the "Infinity" building...
The original Infinity Inc was children of heroes & villains from the future, working together to save the world, so.
What makes you think LOSH? I'm too curious.
Jem,
Thank you for that clarification, Jeff.
Jeff, Thomas:
When I say "the future" I mean "the future of the JSA during WW2," yes. Not "the future" as in "the far future where the Legion comes from."
In this case, the people I think are Infinity Inc are apparently from about the same distance in the future of the Justice League as the original Infinity Inc would be from the JSA.
I had noticed the Endless' resemblance to Coluans, but THIS Superman has met Coluans in his history, and I'm pretty sure he'd recognize them.
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Jem,
Good points all around.
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Charles,
yeah that incorporation from a previous WW run didn't sit well with me. Especially after all that crap with Donna.
But the Key seemed more competent than usual. Which is good!
Actually the whole Donna thing is probably still up in the air. The story of her "new" origin starts on Themyscria.
And with Rucka's "Truth" story everything that happened on Themyscria is a lie. Diana has not been able to return since she left that first time. By that logic Donna has never been there even once.
So Donna being made out of the clay of Diana's mother can't be true
So once more we are back to "Who is Donna Troy?"
Grey,
You make a strong case, especially given what's happened with Diana and Themyscria.
Ah! I must have missed that. Thanks for pointing that out Charles.
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Turns out I was wrong earlier when I thought Superman from 2 universes we merged into one.
A little confusion cropping up.
In Supergirl, the Emerald Empress says she destroyed her life (after confronting Saturn Girl in this time period?).
Kara says they never met and Superman says she is from the future. So we have the possibility of Supergirl joining the Legion sometime.
But in Action, Superman is having the fortress review his life and there is no mention of him being the the Legion. So if he was not in the Legion, how does he know that Emerald Empress is from the future?
Turns out the Eye of Nekron is magical in nature. I wonder if they are getting away from it being a form of Green Lantern energy. Although, it could be a part of Alan Scott's mystical Green Lantern energy, which is a combination of magic and the energy the Guardians used to seal it away.
I have every issue of Supergirl for the last ten years. I have an uninterrupted run of the series, through all incarnations through the current.
So believe me when I say...
I'm confused.
There is literally NO MENTION of Supergirl joining the DEO and getting foster parents prior to this new run.
She just suddenly "Did" and suddenly "has them" and somehow isn't using contractions any more, despite having mastered English early on in her New52 run.
All of these things are new developments for the character, that were never addressed prior to Rebirth, were not addressed IN Rebirth, and are leading me to believe that either editorial and story direction got REALLY SLOPPY, or we're going to get some new revelation that something changed in *her* timeline, as well.
I dunno. I'm usually good with twists and turns, but this is too much even for me.
As to the whole Superman thing...
And, sadly, it looks as though Ma & Pa Kent are both New-52 Era dead in this timeline, which sucks, because I liked having Jonathan and Martha around, Pre-Boot.
Supergirl joining the DEO happened in a Superman book. When Vandal Savage was mucking with things causing Superman52's powers to fritz it was affecting Supergirl as well. She went to the DEO to get medical help in exchange she agreed to join them
I like the new look for Krypton, little bits and looks from the various different versions all together, plus more racially intergrated as well which is nice to see. Some suggestion that Krypton died because of lazy rich people not wanting to hear the obvious.
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I like the new look for Krypton, little bits and looks from the various different versions all together, plus more racially intergrated as well which is nice to see.
I loved the Byrne interpretation of Kryptonian's look, so it's nice to see that it still exists somewhere, even if it isn't some racially homogenous look. (And that's a plus. Earth has plenty of 'looks' and hundreds of languages, cultures, etc. Why shouldn't alien worlds be equally varied?)
I like the new look for Krypton, little bits and looks from the various different versions all together, plus more racially intergrated as well which is nice to see.I loved the Byrne interpretation of Kryptonian's look, so it's nice to see that it still exists somewhere, even if it isn't some racially homogenous look. (And that's a plus. Earth has plenty of 'looks' and hundreds of languages, cultures, etc. Why shouldn't alien worlds be equally varied?)
This.
I think it was Jerry Seinfeld who had bit once about how all the alien civilizations seem to dress exactly the same... like some gets a memo "Oh.. it looks like we're all switching to the shiny silver with the Circle on the hoods this year...
I like seeing a bunch of the krytonian styles represented.
Well, keep in mind that for the last thirty some-odd years, especially in the whole "World of New Krypton" arc, we found out that the reason everyone on Krypton was white was a lower-horror version of what the Viltrumites did in Invincible - which was basically ethnic cleansing far in their past, which led to their only being one color and one creed yadda yadda eugenics yadda yadda Guilds yadda yadda Kryptonian Exceptionalism. That was somewhere before "Krypton stopped being a colonial power, withdrawing their massive fleet of ships from across the stars, to become isolationist."
(Read: why we have Daxamites, and why Wonder Woman told Superman to "never again" ask her about Rao, Pre-New 52.)
Greylurker... I... have every issue of Superman as well? And I don't remember that. I clearly either missed an issue or I'm blocking something about that issue out of my mind. I'll go back through my boxes and read up. Thank you for that pointer.
Charles... That's what I was getting at, yes, and appears to be what happened as of this issue. My question is: Who was that "other voice"?
And are we going to discover that it was a big blue naked guy on Mars that did the Super-Split?
Greylurker... I... have every issue of Superman as well? And I don't remember that. I clearly either missed an issue or I'm blocking something about that issue out of my mind. I'll go back through my boxes and read up. Thank you for that pointer.
I...think it was just before 52Sups blew up fighting that guy who thought he was Superman, somewhere around that point
I...think it was just before 52Sups blew up fighting that guy who thought he was Superman, somewhere around that point
Greylurker... I... have every issue of Superman as well? And I don't remember that. I clearly either missed an issue or I'm blocking something about that issue out of my mind. I'll go back through my boxes and read up. Thank you for that pointer.
I think I know which box that's in. I'm in the process of moving right now, but after everything settles, I'll go back through that arc. :)
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I forget too, Grey but I know you're right about Supergirl joining the DEO in one of the Superman books. I'll do a google search, see what I can come up with. *checks* Okay so Superman/Wonder Woman #28 has some of it but apparently before they did the re-numbering, there was some stuff in Action Comics Volume #51 about it too.
ANYWAYS, I think what happened is both are correct. In terms of the whole fusing of Superman 52 to Pre-Flashpoint Superman so that the entire Multiverse/reality accepts there was only ONE Superman, not two as we saw.
Regardless, I think that we'll get some more clarity once Flash and Batman do some more investigative work.
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I'd pay good money to see Batman actually be a detective, again.
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Jem,
That might yet happen if they ever decide to give Batman a decent mystery that he can't solve in under...20 minutes.
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I've been saying for a long time that the Batman: The Animated Series version is the One True Batman.
At least then, 20 minutes our time was several hours or days, Batman time.
Jem,
I'm not disputing that but it seems like giving Batman a mystery (especially in this day and age of Google and internets) seems a little...harder to make last long enough to go more than a few pages.
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Oh, I believe you and I get where you're coming from.
I just want The World's Greatest Detective, not The World's Most Paranoid Doomsday Plotter.
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Jem,
Yeah well that might be how it goes until we get rid of computers. :p ;)
Ok...Nice Cliffhanger over in Hal and the GLs.
Rip Hunter is back
Jem,
Mm! I almost forgot that.
But yes, nice to Rip back. I hope this means we'll see Booster soon.
Jem,
Mm! I almost forgot that.
But yes, nice to Rip back. I hope this means we'll see Booster soon.
Isn't Booster in Flintstones this month
Grey,
I assumed that was non-cannon...