Not about a show, but TV's themselves...

[GreyWolfLord]

Recently while traveling quite a bit, a had a few TV's that looked atrocious to me...or at least their picture was.

I couldn't figure out what made them different or not, but when they had movies and shows on everything looked like it had terrible lighting.

The Grinch appeared to have the lighting of a bad soap opera.

CSI appeared to have the lighting of a decent soap opera or comedy sitcom.

Sitcoms actually looked horrendous.

It was as if the TV had been fashioned to destroy all sense of normal lighting in favor of making it appear as if the filters on the cameras were never in place.

Movies that looked great in the theater suddenly appeared to have terrible lighting.

I hated it.

What type of TV's are these?

I noticed now in a recent visit to an electronics store that they also had TV's with this type of picture...it seems about 1 in 4 have it now days.

What is the setting on these that make it so the picture comes out so terribly?

Is it because they are on 3d TVs or something that have the ability for 3d, or is it some sort of lighting setting, or is it something else.

This is one thing I'd like to know so I can avoid these TV's like the plague.

Anyone know what type of TVs these are or what causes this?

[Krensky]

Way too little info.

My first bet would be that the picture is just set bad, but without some makes and models it's hard to make any other sort of guess. If I had to, those monitors might be OLED screens, which have true blacks unlike fluorescent or LED backlit LCD screens. If that's the case, it's not the TVs, it's you. Just like how people think HFR looks fake.

[Caineach]

It is really easy to mess with the color settings on a screen to make it look terrible. I wouldn't be surprised if random people mess with the color on hotel TVs

[Krensky]

Even something like a Calibrated (Dark) setting will look horrid in normal lighting, but will look much, much nicer in a dim room.

[Woundweaver]

My guess by the words bad soap opera, you are talking about TV's with motion interpolation settings turned on. Different TV's call their motion interpolation different things.

You can read about it here.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-test-results/motion-interpolation-soap- opera-effect

That's weird the post keeps putting a space in the URL.

soap-opera should not have a space.

[QuidEst]

Yep, it's motion interpolation. It's a nuisance.

[Caineach]

Woundweaver wrote:

My guess by the words bad soap opera, you are talking about TV's with motion interpolation settings turned on. Different TV's call their motion interpolation different things.

You can read about it here.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-test-results/motion-interpolation-soap- opera-effect

That's weird the post keeps putting a space in the URL.

soap-opera should not have a space.

linkified

the forum software has a bug that automatically puts a space on text that wraps to a new line in the preview window. It is fairly low priority from what I can tell, since it has been around for a few years now. You can use {url=(urlhere)}text for link{/url}, using [] in place of {}

[Krensky]

He was specific in saying it makes the lighting look bad, not that it looks unrealistic or had artifacts.

That's a backlight or black and white balance issue.

[GreyWolfLord]

Awesome, thanks. the soap opera or motion interpolation looks to be exactly what it is.

I now know the name of my pain, and it is motion interpolation.

This must drive cinematic purist nutty!

I appreciate you guys informing me what this stuff was...I really dislike it.

[Caineach]

GreyWolfLord wrote:

Awesome, thanks. the soap opera or motion interpolation looks to be exactly what it is.

I now know the name of my pain, and it is motion interpolation.

This must drive cinematic purist nutty!

I appreciate you guys informing me what this stuff was...I really dislike it.

Your not the only one. It hurts my eyes looking at tvs with it.

[Woundweaver]

No problem. It is usually easy enough to turn it off on most TVs. You just need to know what each individual manufacturer calls their version of motion interpolation.

Hitachi – Reel120
Insignia – DCM Plus, for Digital Clear Motion 120 Hz, or Insignia Motion 120 Hz
Kogan – MotionMax 100 Hz, 200 Hz
LG – TruMotion 120 Hz, 240 Hz, 480 Hz
AOC – Motion Boost 120 Hz
Bose – VideoWave III 120 Hz (Not named)
Loewe – Digital Movie Mode (DMM)
Mitsubishi – Smooth 120 Hz
Panasonic – Intelligent Frame Creation (IFC) 24p Smooth Film (24p material only)
Philips – HD Digital Natural Motion, Perfect Motion Rate
Samsung – Auto Motion Plus 120 Hz,[6] 240 Hz, Clear Motion Rate 100 Hz, 200 Hz, 400 Hz, 500 Hz, 600 Hz, 800 Hz; (PAL video system), Clear Motion Rate 120 Hz, 240 Hz, 480 Hz, 600 Hz, 720 Hz, 960 Hz (NTSC video system)
Sharp – Fine Motion Enhanced, AquoMotion 240 Hz, AquoMotion Pro
Sony – MotionFlow 100 Hz, 100 Hz PRO (XBR series, Australia), 120 Hz, 200 Hz, 240 Hz, 400 Hz, 480 Hz, 800 Hz, 960 Hz.
Toshiba – ClearScan 120 Hz, 240 Hz
Vizio – SmoothMotion
Sceptre – MEMC (Motion Estimation/Motion Compensation)
Hisense – Ultra Smooth Motion Rate SMR 120

[BigDTBone]

Caineach wrote:

Woundweaver wrote:

My guess by the words bad soap opera, you are talking about TV's with motion interpolation settings turned on. Different TV's call their motion interpolation different things.

You can read about it here.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-test-results/motion-interpolation-soap- opera-effect

That's weird the post keeps putting a space in the URL.

soap-opera should not have a space.

linkified

the forum software has a bug that automatically puts a space on text that wraps to a new line in the preview window. It is fairly low priority from what I can tell, since it has been around for a few years now. You can use {url=(urlhere)}text for link{/url}, using [] in place of {}

It's not a bug, it's a feature.