Creating new feats to use with flurry of blows or brawlers flurry


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I know this is a re post of a post i made earlier this morning but i put the post in the wrong forum

I am creating a a set of feats to use with flurry of blows or brawlers flurry, the first feat is called

Monastic Training::

You make advantage of your monastic Training and Weapon training to allow you to fuse them together.

Prerequisites: Improved Unarmed Strike, Flurry of blow or Brawlers Flurry Weapon Focus, Weapon Proficiency in weapon of choice

Benefit: This feat allows you to use the Weapon Chosen with Flurry of blows or brawlers furry, you can interpose this weapon as part of your flurry.

The Second feat is called

Improved Monastic Training::

You make further advantage of your monastic Training and Weapon training to allow you to use them with the monks Style strikes or the brawlers Close Weapon Mastery.

Prerequisites: Monastic Training

Benefit: This feat allows a monk to use the chosen weapon with any style strike they know, and brawlers can count this weapon as part of the close weapon mastery list.

I was wondering if these feats are balanced.

I ask this as i have the artifact weapon Agrimmosh and i want to make full use of it.

Please any input on these feats would be awesome

I have a second question as well Ki Leach Qinggong Monk power would that make my character more evil as the spell it is based upon is necromancy [evil]. My Unchained Monk who is the Vanara race is LN. I look at the power as a Neutral person would look at the reclaiming of life force is no different then a body becoming food for the creatures of he land which in turn becomes fertilizer for the land. So the life force will eb reclaimed either way.


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come on please i want your advice please


Unnecessary feats.

Look up weapon master's handbook and they have something similar, though doesn't work quite as well as your feats do (on purpose).

It's called Ascetic Style and it's follow up feats.


No reason to bump your post after a few hours, people who are interested in the forum will see it. Not to mention the forum admins don't particularly care for it (and often say so when it happens, they just happen to not be working right now).


Claxon wrote:

Unnecessary feats.

Look up weapon master's handbook and they have something similar, though doesn't work quite as well as your feats do (on purpose).

It's called Ascetic Style and it's follow up feats.

That feat would be great if it worked with the weapon type i want to use right now it only works with the Monk Fighter weapon group, which does not have war hammer in it, that is if i am reading it right.


wintersrage wrote:
Claxon wrote:

Unnecessary feats.

Look up weapon master's handbook and they have something similar, though doesn't work quite as well as your feats do (on purpose).

It's called Ascetic Style and it's follow up feats.

That feat would be great if it worked with the weapon type i want to use right now it only works with the Monk Fighter weapon group, which does not have war hammer in it, that is if i am reading it right.

Yes, that's my point. You're feats are similar to but better than published material. It's not filling a hole of something that's missing. It's just more powerful than published material.

So my opinion is no, it shouldn't be allowed.


Isn't there a monk archetype that lets you flurry with non monk weapons?


Ryan Freire wrote:
Isn't there a monk archetype that lets you flurry with non monk weapons?

If there is i can not use it as i am using the Unchained monk class and it says this class is not compatible with any monk archetype.


Ryan Freire wrote:
Isn't there a monk archetype that lets you flurry with non monk weapons?

Yes, sohei monk.

But as mentioned it is not compatible with unchained.

It's also worth noting that the sohei can only select the following weapon groups:
bows, crossbows, monk weapons, polearms, spears, or thrown weapons.

And I don't think warhammer is on any of those groups.


Claxon wrote:
Ryan Freire wrote:
Isn't there a monk archetype that lets you flurry with non monk weapons?

Yes, sohei monk.

But as mentioned it is not compatible with unchained.

It's also worth noting that the sohei can only select the following weapon groups:
bows, crossbows, monk weapons, polearms, spears, or thrown weapons.

And I don't think warhammer is on any of those groups.

You would think they would have created a feat to allow monks and brawlers to add a weapon to the list of weapons under the monk fighter weapon group, it just makes sense as there are so styles of Shoulin monks and i believe 1 of them use hammer like weapons, and it seams that monks are a lot like Shoulin monks.

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wintersrage wrote:
Claxon wrote:
Ryan Freire wrote:
Isn't there a monk archetype that lets you flurry with non monk weapons?

Yes, sohei monk.

But as mentioned it is not compatible with unchained.

It's also worth noting that the sohei can only select the following weapon groups:
bows, crossbows, monk weapons, polearms, spears, or thrown weapons.

And I don't think warhammer is on any of those groups.

You would think they would have created a feat to allow monks and brawlers to add a weapon to the list of weapons under the monk fighter weapon group, it just makes sense as there are so styles of Shoulin monks and i believe 1 of them use hammer like weapons, and it seams that monks are a lot like Shoulin monks.

That feat exists. By dipping 1 level into cleric, you can take Crusader's Fury to treat your deity's favored weapon as a monk weapon. Because of the crusader archetype and ki channel, this is actually a pretty good dip, especially for an unchained monk.


i might just to that


just use a kama with the vicious stomp feat and combat reflexes and trip everyone as part of your flurry for free attacks of opportunity on top of that. what the problem is?

jk. on a more relevant note I don't think its that unbalanced really. there are similar feats that let you use other weapons for flurry that just have more specific requirements or limited selection. You could probably find a way to make it broken with those feats, but if your intent is more just for the flavor of flurrying with your weapon of choice I think that'd be fair for at least a one time exception subject to change at the dms discretion, if the dm is ok with it.


Newport wrote:

just use a kama with the vicious stomp feat and combat reflexes and trip everyone as part of your flurry for free attacks of opportunity on top of that. what the problem is?

jk. on a more relevant note I don't think its that unbalanced really. there are similar feats that let you use other weapons for flurry that just have more specific requirements or limited selection. You could probably find a way to make it broken with those feats, but if your intent is more just for the flavor of flurrying with your weapon of choice I think that'd be fair for at least a one time exception subject to change at the dms discretion, if the dm is ok with it.

Well the thing is that I got my hands on the artifact weapon A grim mosh, right now it is a +2 impact warhammer, which does because of the impact 2D6 damage. I belive the weapon if I critical on an enemy they have to make a dc 23 check or be shrunk as the spell reduce person. The weapon as an immediate action allows me to dispel mage as the spell hightened to level 20 against transmutation spells on the target. Also once per day I can cast enlarge person on my self heightened to level 20 as well. The weapon gets other abilities when I find Minderhal’s Forge.

I have a second question as well Ki Leach Qinggong Monk power would that make my character more evil as the spell it is based upon is necromancy [evil]. My Unchained Monk who is the Vanara race is LN. I look at the power as a Neutral person would look at the reclaiming of life force is no different then a body becoming food for the creatures of he land which in turn becomes fertilizer for the land. So the life force will eb reclaimed either way.


Just to clarify for you, the reduce person effect only affects humanoids. The description you linked to specifies so.


I have made a decision to change the feat i am creating to be used with Ascetic Style line of feats from the Weapon Master's Handbook the new feat will look like

Monastic Weapon Training:

You make advantage of your monastic Training and Weapon training to allow you to fuse them together.

Prerequisites: Improved Unarmed Strike, Flurry of blow or Brawlers Flurry Weapon Focus, Weapon Proficiency in weapon of choice

Benefit: This feat allows you to count the Chosen weapon as if it had the monk special property and as part of the close weapon group

With this feat you could then pick up the Ascetic Style line of feats.

Ascetic Form (Combat):

You have mastered the ability to blend the use of arms with martial arts.

Prerequisites: Ascetic Style; Weapon Focus with the chosen melee weapon; base attack bonus +5 or monk level 5th.

Benefit: You can use the chosen melee weapon with any class ability that can be used with an unarmed strike, such as an unchained monk’s style strike ability. In addition, you are treated as a monk with a level equal to your character level for the purpose of determining the number of times per day that you can use feats with uses per day that depend upon your monk level, such as the Stunning Fist or Perfect Strike feats.

Ascetic Strike (Combat):

Your weapon strikes deal more damage than usual.

Prerequisites: Ascetic Form; Ascetic Style; Weapon Focus with the chosen weapon; base attack bonus +7 or monk level 7th.

Benefit: You can use the unarmed strike damage of a monk 4 levels lower than your character level (minimum 1st) instead of the base damage for the chosen weapon. Ascetic Strike functions in all other ways as the brawler’s close weapon masteryACG class feature. In addition, you ignore the still mind class feature prerequisite for the Monastic LegacyUC feat.

Ascetic Style (Combat, Style):

You blend arms and martial arts, using weapons with the same ease as unarmed strikes.

Prerequisites: Weapon Focus with the chosen melee weapon; base attack bonus +1 or monk level 1st.

Benefit: Choose one weapon from the monk fighter weapon group. While using this style and wielding the chosen weapon, you can apply the effects of feats that have Improved Unarmed Strike as a prerequisite, as well as effects that augment an unarmed strike, as if attacks with the weapon were unarmed attacks.

Special: A 5th-level monk or character with the weapon training (monk) class feature can use Ascetic Style with any monk weapon, in addition to the chosen melee weapon.


I change the feat again as it makes no sense as it was when used with ascetic style line of feats. The new feat looks like:

Monastic Weapon Training:

You make advantage of your monastic Training and Weapon training to allow you to fuse them together.

Prerequisites: Weapon Focus, Weapon Proficiency in weapon of choice

Benefit: This feat allows you to count the Chosen weapon as if it had the monk special property as part of the close weapon fighter group, and the monk fighter weapon group

With this feat you could then pick up the Ascetic Style line of feats.

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