ON a failed save for Stone to Flesh, do objects on the victim survive?


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Had this come up. A PC was turned to stone by a Medusa and his party brought him back to the city to try and reverse the spell. He DC15 fort save and died. My question is: Do the objects he was wearing (rings, armor, rapier, etc.) survive, or are they also destroyed.

I'm leaning toward survival as it appears that the death is caused by a shock to the system.


Nothing in the description of the spell says that any worn or carried gear carries any risk of loss, only the life of the person.


Items are usually only at risk if the target is under attack - this isn't so much an attack as the ultimate consequences of one. So I would treat items as vulnerable to this blown save.


Shadowborn wrote:
Nothing in the description of the spell says that any worn or carried gear carries any risk of loss, only the life of the person.

Exactly, doesn't get much simpler.


Zippykat wrote:


Had this come up. A PC was turned to stone by a Medusa and his party brought him back to the city to try and reverse the spell. He DC15 fort save and died. My question is: Do the objects he was wearing (rings, armor, rapier, etc.) survive, or are they also destroyed.

I'm leaning toward survival as it appears that the death is caused by a shock to the system.

I lost my source, but only one a 1 for the save are wielded items ever endanger from spell effects. I can also point out from The Kobold King series there was a dwarf who was turned to stone who's long sword was intact, so I call that source that items *should* be intact.


PRD

Items Surviving after a Saving Throw wrote:

Unless the descriptive text for the spell specifies otherwise, all items carried or worn by a creature are assumed to survive a magical attack. If a creature rolls a natural 1 on its saving throw against the effect, however, an exposed item is harmed (if the attack can harm objects). Refer to Table: Items Affected by Magical Attacks. Determine which four objects carried or worn by the creature are most likely to be affected and roll randomly among them. The randomly determined item must make a saving throw against the attack form and take whatever damage the attack dealt.

If the selected item is not carried or worn and is not magical, it does not get a saving throw. It simply is dealt the appropriate damage.

Only 1 item can be damaged, if a Nat 1 is rolled.

/cevah


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Even if he had rolled a 1, flesh to stone targets living creatures only.


Counterpoint: Shensen in Dance of the Damned is petrified with her scimitar, at least, explicitly described as being in her hand and part of the "stone statute." Since she's not described as naked I presume the rest of her gear made the transition as well.

Plus there's that field south of Geb that has a bunch of petrified warrior women. I think they're supposed to have their gear, too.


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However, when un-petrified, the equipment will be fine. The person, however, might die.

/cevah


prd, Flesh to Stone wrote:

The subject, along with all its carried gear, turns into a mindless, inert statue. If the statue resulting from this spell is broken or damaged, the subject (if ever returned to its original state) has similar damage or deformities. The creature is not dead, but it does not seem to be alive either when viewed with spells such as deathwatch.

Only creatures made of flesh are affected by this spell.

Nothing on the Medusa page says anything in either direction:

Petrifying Gaze wrote:

Petrifying Gaze (Su)

Turn to stone permanently, 30 feet, Fortitude DC 16 negates. The save DC is Charisma-based.


We've always had all gear transform along with the target...

When turning back, the gear reverts.

The person might not live, but their gear is salvageable.

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