Tanglefoot Bags and Ghost Salt

[Doomed Hero]

If you were to apply ghost salt to a tanglefoot bag, could you entangle an incorporeal creature?

[The Raven Black]

Crunch : not a weapon
Fluff : placing a bag of tar and resin over a hot flame for a full round would ruin it ;-)

[Casual Viking]

The Raven Black wrote:

Crunch : not a weapon

Fluff : placing a bag of tar and resin over a hot flame for a full round would ruin it ;-)

Totally a weapon. Being able to do full damage with a tanglefoot bag doesn't make much of a difference, though, as it doesn't deal damage.

[Doomed Hero]

I guess the crux of the argument is if tanglefoot bags are weapons.

[Diego Rossi]

The Raven Black wrote:

Crunch : not a weapon

Fluff : placing a bag of tar and resin over a hot flame for a full round would ruin it ;-)

In a home campaign I would allow to craft an alchemical item that incorporate both effect, probably with a crafting DC based on the hardest to make item +5, but wouldn't allow someone to add ghost salt to an existing tanglefoot bag.

[Casual Viking]

Diego Rossi wrote:

The Raven Black wrote:

Crunch : not a weapon

Fluff : placing a bag of tar and resin over a hot flame for a full round would ruin it ;-)

In a home campaign I would allow to craft an alchemical item that incorporate both effect, probably with a crafting DC based on the hardest to make item +5, but wouldn't allow someone to add ghost salt to an existing tanglefoot bag.

Agreed, although a hybridization funnel could probably do it.

[Doomed Hero]

So far I'm getting that the rules don't really cover this situation, and that it's up to GM adjudication

[Paulicus]

Seems like it'd need to be mixed in with the goo to be effective, so I'd second the crafting idea, or the hybridization funnel.

[Doomed Hero]

Normally ghost salt is permanent (until you hit something). With the hybridization funnel the mixture only lasts a day, then you're just out the cost of all 3 items. Not really a great solution.

[Splendor]

Quote:

The blanching gives the weapon the ability to do full damage to incorporeal creatures, even if the weapon itself is non-magical. An application of ghost salt remains effective until the weapon makes a successful attack.

It allows the weapon to do full damage. It says nothing about making it a force effect.

A tanglefoot bag is a weapon, but it does no damage. Since it's not a force effect it would not restrain the ghost in any way.

Unfortunately Holy Weapon Balm also wouldn't work.

In a past games we have made +1 ghost touched snag net for dealing with wizards (cast silence on it and throw it on a wizard, you caught a wizard).
Once we also made a +1 ghost touched rope (lasso) because we couldn't figure out how to permanently kill a ghost-wizard. We used the net to catch it and then our fighter tied it up (inside the net), then researched how to kill the ghost-wizard with out his interference.