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Uhh... What kind of Cthulhu have you been looking at? As far as I know he has always had a head.
Others, such as golems and undead creatures other than vampires, are not affected by the loss of their heads.
If a vampire can survive a vorpal blade, I'm reasonably sure that Cthulhu would be just fine.
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Chthullu's head starts flying around eating 1d6 Investigators each round.
Others, such as golems and undead creatures other than vampires, are not affected by the loss of their heads.If a vampire can survive a vorpal blade, I'm reasonably sure that Cthulhu would be just fine.It says "undead creatures other than vampires". Ie, the vampire are a/the example of undead creatures that do die when they lose their heads.
Also, why is this in Third-Party Products?
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Oh! My mistake, that's what I get for visiting these forums just as I wake up. Sorry about that.
But the point still stands, it's not impossible to survive a vorpal strike, so a being such as Cthulhu should be fine even if he loses his head.
As a DM you could rule that the pc has to be close to his head to use the sword I mean if he can only reach his feet...okay not a huge problem for 20th level characters.
Further since he's so big maybe the sword can't cut all the way through his neck? You need a bigger sword!
It does seem a bit silly for him to die so easily. Granted I'm betting he would recognize the power of the sword and make destroying it a priority or ending that character and then stealing the sword. :)
Chthullu's head starts flying around eating 1d6 Investigators each round.
Pretty much this (also good reference), Cthulu is an eldritch horror not bound by the laws of physical reality, the form we perceive him in is only the barest possible association with 'real' that your mind can come up with without going TOTALLY insane. Even if you cut his head off he'd probably just wonder if you thought that would accomplish anything since he likely neither needs a 'head' or even cares.
You could probably let the party have their brief moment of victory, cthulu's head falling to the ground with a pause before it merely floats back up onto the body and he chuckles in amusement at the pitiful mortal's toys.
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Certain things should have never been given stats. Cthulhu is one of those things. He is madness, aberrations and abominations. Even the books that actually have him in them don't usually mess with him except to have the very edge of his consciousness touch this world and create chaos. Hitting him for hp damage is a joke as is cutting off his head imo and a campaign where he is released upon the world should have been about stopping that release because if The Big C is released he will devour the world for starters...there is no stopping him, or the other Elder Gods.
Eh, a sea captain did it with a boat.
A lucky vorpal hit could certainly kill Cthulhu. Big C's immune to death effects, but decapitation isn't actually a death effect. It's simply fatal for most things =P
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Id say it kills him, nothing says he doesn't need his head. Though I wouldn't complain if a GM said otherwise.
I also don't mind him being statted, presumably the game assumes you're 20th level with 10 mythic tiers. Most stories of Cthulhu are about regular people, not characters that have become Demi-gods.
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Cthuluh's Head?
He is a n-Dimensional entity. Chopping off his "head" would be the same as when a human extended his hand into a different room, and then get the tip of his finger chopped off.
Even if you'd destroy his physical form down to the atomar level, he'd just be annoyed and extend one of his other "hands" into our world.
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Fools. Cthulhu has evolved beyond the need for something so primitive as a head.
Wasn't Cthullu defeated by a boat in the original story?
Wasn't Cthullu defeated by a boat in the original story?His Earthly body was temporarily dispersed, long enough for the narrator to get away, as should probably happen here.
Exactly. Keep in mind Cthulhu's Immortality clause; you can't actually kill him in Pathfinder. The best you can do is make him go away for a little while... Assuming you're lucky enough to defeat him twice within 2d6 rounds. "Killing" Cthulhu with a vorpal weapon alone means getting 2 natural twenties within 2d6 rounds. Which isn't impossible, not even unlikely if you build for it... but even so, Cthulhu is gone for only as long as the GM wants. He can just come back.
Also, my comment earlier wasn't to the effect of "Cthulhu has a head, so vorpal should kill him!" It might, it might not, a GM could rule it either way. I was just wondering about Duiker's post.
So i'm running a game for my friends new years with a ticking clock that ticks down to cthulhu awakening (it's a level 20 game) and i was reading up on some special weapon qualities and saw that Vorpal is not a death effect, now correct me if i'm wrong would this just simply kill cthulhu? I mean he comes back but another vorpal hit would end him, correct?
With a vorpral weapon, you still have to roll to confirm the crit after rolling your natural 20. Also, there's the 50% miss chance. Best case, you have to do this twice in 2d6 rounds. That said, he's super intelligent and has a super high Spellcraft and CMB plus Greater Sunder. Every attack he makes should be a sunder attack. The sword shouldn't past a round.
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If you cut off his head, you take his power. By taking his power, you become Cthulhu. By becoming Cthulhu, you die and he lives on.
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Wasn't Cthullu defeated by a boat in the original story?His Earthly body was temporarily dispersed, long enough for the narrator to get away, as should probably happen here.Exactly. Keep in mind Cthulhu's Immortality clause; you can't actually kill him in Pathfinder. The best you can do is make him go away for a little while... Assuming you're lucky enough to defeat him twice within 2d6 rounds. "Killing" Cthulhu with a vorpal weapon alone means getting 2 natural twenties within 2d6 rounds. Which isn't impossible, not even unlikely if you build for it... but even so, Cthulhu is gone for only as long as the GM wants. He can just come back.
Also, my comment earlier wasn't to the effect of "Cthulhu has a head, so vorpal should kill him!" It might, it might not, a GM could rule it either way. I was just wondering about Duiker's post.
There's a build that affects the random possibility of a natural 20 coming up on the die?
There's a build that affects the random possibility of a natural 20 coming up on the die?Wasn't Cthullu defeated by a boat in the original story?His Earthly body was temporarily dispersed, long enough for the narrator to get away, as should probably happen here.Exactly. Keep in mind Cthulhu's Immortality clause; you can't actually kill him in Pathfinder. The best you can do is make him go away for a little while... Assuming you're lucky enough to defeat him twice within 2d6 rounds. "Killing" Cthulhu with a vorpal weapon alone means getting 2 natural twenties within 2d6 rounds. Which isn't impossible, not even unlikely if you build for it... but even so, Cthulhu is gone for only as long as the GM wants. He can just come back.
Also, my comment earlier wasn't to the effect of "Cthulhu has a head, so vorpal should kill him!" It might, it might not, a GM could rule it either way. I was just wondering about Duiker's post.
Well yeah. Multiple spells exist that affect the outcome of a d20.
Well yeah. Multiple spells exist that affect the outcome of a d20.There's a build that affects the random possibility of a natural 20 coming up on the die?Wasn't Cthullu defeated by a boat in the original story?His Earthly body was temporarily dispersed, long enough for the narrator to get away, as should probably happen here.Exactly. Keep in mind Cthulhu's Immortality clause; you can't actually kill him in Pathfinder. The best you can do is make him go away for a little while... Assuming you're lucky enough to defeat him twice within 2d6 rounds. "Killing" Cthulhu with a vorpal weapon alone means getting 2 natural twenties within 2d6 rounds. Which isn't impossible, not even unlikely if you build for it... but even so, Cthulhu is gone for only as long as the GM wants. He can just come back.
Also, my comment earlier wasn't to the effect of "Cthulhu has a head, so vorpal should kill him!" It might, it might not, a GM could rule it either way. I was just wondering about Duiker's post.
lolWell yeah. Multiple spells exist that affect the outcome of a d20.There's a build that affects the random possibility of a natural 20 coming up on the die?Wasn't Cthullu defeated by a boat in the original story?His Earthly body was temporarily dispersed, long enough for the narrator to get away, as should probably happen here.Exactly. Keep in mind Cthulhu's Immortality clause; you can't actually kill him in Pathfinder. The best you can do is make him go away for a little while... Assuming you're lucky enough to defeat him twice within 2d6 rounds. "Killing" Cthulhu with a vorpal weapon alone means getting 2 natural twenties within 2d6 rounds. Which isn't impossible, not even unlikely if you build for it... but even so, Cthulhu is gone for only as long as the GM wants. He can just come back.
Also, my comment earlier wasn't to the effect of "Cthulhu has a head, so vorpal should kill him!" It might, it might not, a GM could rule it either way. I was just wondering about Duiker's post.
Yeah, I was talking about the roll twice take better spells and abilities, without even touching on broken magic items. If you want to do that with some regularity, you really can.
If you don't want someone to be interfered with, don't give it stats, don't roll dice.
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"They can tell you're lying."
"Jesus saves."
There's a build that affects the random possibility of a natural 20 coming up on the die?Wasn't Cthullu defeated by a boat in the original story?His Earthly body was temporarily dispersed, long enough for the narrator to get away, as should probably happen here.Exactly. Keep in mind Cthulhu's Immortality clause; you can't actually kill him in Pathfinder. The best you can do is make him go away for a little while... Assuming you're lucky enough to defeat him twice within 2d6 rounds. "Killing" Cthulhu with a vorpal weapon alone means getting 2 natural twenties within 2d6 rounds. Which isn't impossible, not even unlikely if you build for it... but even so, Cthulhu is gone for only as long as the GM wants. He can just come back.
Also, my comment earlier wasn't to the effect of "Cthulhu has a head, so vorpal should kill him!" It might, it might not, a GM could rule it either way. I was just wondering about Duiker's post.
Although others have posted their options, I meant it in a less strict sense of affecting random rolls, and more about just rolling a lot. A dedicated Two-Weapon Fighting character at high levels, with appropriate buffs and the like, is cranking out 7+ attacks a round. Assuming an average of 7 rounds to attack with, that's over forty attacks. I'd be surprised if you didn't see a twenty or two in there.
Although cyclops helm+vorpal swording to one-shot a boss would be pretty obnoxious.
Arguing about the size of the neck is pointless at the decapitating power of a vorpal weapon is mainly magical.
I mean, an equivalent of +5 for "you just happen to chop the head every 20 hits or so" would be thematically underwhelming
