Natural Attacks on Humanoids, which strength Bonus to damage is applied?


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As in the title. My question stems from the basic description in the NA Section that a creature who has only one form of NA gets its STR-Mod +50% to damage like a two-handed weapon.

Humanoids CAN always make unarmed strikes, so even a Barbarian with a rage power that grants him a single NA, like Fiendish Totem, could, in theory, make an unarmed strike and the NA (with the appropriate mali for being a secondary NA) as part of a full attack.

However, the description specifically names natural attacks as the deciding factor, not the ability perform UAS or use weapons. So if this barbarian is disarmed and chooses NOT to do an unarmed strike, using his single NA instead with an attack action, would he receive the 50% STR-Mod bonus?


unarmed strikes are counted as manufactured weapons and not natural ones.

If he DOES have a single natural attack, like a 1/2 orc with a bite, then that attack is at 1.5x strength damage as long as no weapon attacks happen.

So options are:
unarmed strike 1xst damage + natural attack .5xst damage [-5 attack] or
natural attack 1.5xst damage or
unarmed strike 1xst damage


graystone wrote:

unarmed strikes are counted as manufactured weapons and not natural ones.

If he DOES have a single natural attack, like a 1/2 orc with a bite, then that attack is at 1.5x strength damage as long as no weapon attacks happen.

So options are:
unarmed strike 1xst damage + natural attack .5xst damage [-5 attack] or
natural attack 1.5xst damage or
unarmed strike 1xst damage

Thats how I read it too, just wasn't sure if its correct. Thanks!


Oh, I dont think it deserves its on thread, but I'd be happy if someone might confirm the following:

A humadoid creature with a natural attack that isnt tied to a limb I.E. a tail slap can still use a Two-Handed weapon and their NA, albeit with the usual penalties, right?


Yep. Bite, gore, tail slap, ect are all good with a Two-Handed weapon.


graystone wrote:
Yep. Bite, gore, tail slap, ect are all good with a Two-Handed weapon.

Thought so, thanks again!

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