crazy arcanist brown fur transmuter

[Kefler]

Just wondering if this would work.
1) sorc 1 x-blodded abysal/orc
2) wizard 1 transmutation
3) arcanist brown fur the rest.

the plan is to take blood line development , and school understanding to get the full benefit of the school and bloodline.

with a robe of arcane heritage , by 12th level i could have +11 str and an other 8 from beast shape

[Fruian Thistlefoot]

I feel the Power of the Brown Fur is putting those sweet buffs on other people.

Giving a Barbarian Form of the Dragon to go to rage town with is pretty freaking strong.

Hitting the rogue with a Transformation is pretty boss sauce too.

[Kefler]

Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:

I feel the Power of the Brown Fur is putting those sweet buffs on other people.

Giving a Barbarian Form of the Dragon to go to rage town with is pretty freaking strong.

Hitting the rogue with a Transformation is pretty boss sauce too.

I think you are right, i think i would be better off going xblooded sorc / dragon disciple , and taking eldritch heritage for the other str boost

it would be like a +12 str boost by lv 11

[Fruian Thistlefoot]

Xblooded orc/dragon sorc/then Dragon disciple

Give up wings for the Inherent Str boost of the orc line.

With a robe of arcane heritage you can accomplish +10 str by level 13.

But your spell casting/spells known will be rather low. I'd skip the wizard level.

I've been theory crafting this kind of build:

1 Inspired blade swash/4 Emp. investigator/2 drunken brute, urban barbarian

Basically at level 7 you have:
Mutagen: +4 alchemical bonus to dex
Controlled rage: +4 to dex
Alter self: Go small: +2 dex, +1 AC
Cat's grace: +4 enhancement to dex
Reduce person: +2 more for tiny

It's +16 to dex while getting dex to hit and damage at level 1.

You also get parry and ripose which is hilarious when your getting so much bonuses to hit.

And because your doing a controlled rage your still doing amazing skills.

I also work in potion glutton by being human so you can chug booze or potions while fighting to extend your rage or buff further.

[Taenia]

Alter self and reduce person don't stack. Otherwise that is impressive though at 4th arcanist you could grab reduce person us cats grace and get 10 Dex from that add mutagenesis plus controlled rage and be going +18 to dex

[Kefler]

Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:

Xblooded orc/dragon sorc/then Dragon disciple

Give up wings for the Inherent Str boost of the orc line.

With a robe of arcane heritage you can accomplish +10 str by level 13.

But your spell casting/spells known will be rather low. I'd skip the wizard level.

I've been theory crafting this kind of build:

1 Inspired blade swash/4 Emp. investigator/2 drunken brute, urban barbarian

Basically at level 7 you have:
Mutagen: +4 alchemical bonus to dex
Controlled rage: +4 to dex
Alter self: Go small: +2 dex, +1 AC
Cat's grace: +4 enhancement to dex
Reduce person: +2 more for tiny

It's +16 to dex while getting dex to hit and damage at level 1.

You also get parry and ripose which is hilarious when your getting so much bonuses to hit.

And because your doing a controlled rage your still doing amazing skills.

I also work in potion glutton by being human so you can chug booze or potions while fighting to extend your rage or buff further.

in the DD build could you not take eldritch heritage abysal at level 11 for +2-6 more str?

[Fruian Thistlefoot]

I don't use eldritch heritage since the fix on it with paragon surge shenanigans.

Is there a ruling for the 2 not working together?

When I read alter self I see it as a polymorph that changes what you are completely to another creature. It doesn't reduce your size...you just become X.

Like shrink person + reduce wouldn't work as they both state they reduce the size of the target. But if you become a ratfolk and use reduce your only altering Size 1 time. Atleast by RAW standards. I could be wrong. But I always thought there was a difference between polymorph and non polymorph spells.

[Avoron]

Polymorph wrote:

In addition, other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell.

[Fruian Thistlefoot]

Ahh well then that is just 2 less.

Thanks for the clarification.

[Kefler]

So with this new FAQ
Dragon Disciple and Bloodrager: The dragon disciple’s blood of dragons ability increases draconic sorcerer bloodline powers. What about draconic bloodragers?
Yes, dragon disciple's blood of dragons ability should also increase draconic bloodragers’ bloodline powers.

if i took level in bloodrager , and levels in socr then DD , would both draconic bloodlines advance?

[Gisher]

Kefler wrote:

So with this new FAQ

Dragon Disciple and Bloodrager: The dragon disciple’s blood of dragons ability increases draconic sorcerer bloodline powers. What about draconic bloodragers?
Yes, dragon disciple's blood of dragons ability should also increase draconic bloodragers’ bloodline powers.

if i took level in bloodrager , and levels in socr then DD , would both draconic bloodlines advance?

Yes they should both advance.