So we've got a month or so left on the development of Gonzo 2 before the PDF version should be out but after that we have some open spots on our development cycle (or are at least willing to shuffle some things around). We are going to be doing a few shorter books (projected to be like 30ish pages?)
More solo classes? More races? Expansion on your favorite class or race? More Necropunk? More DTO/ Heroes of the East? More campaign inspirations (mini-campaign settings)? Let us know!
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Okay, in order of interest:
* Anything Magpie related, or specifically a conversion of the Magpie to strait-Pathfinder and/or Phase rounds advice/interactions/abilities/feats for strait-Pathfinder.
* Psi- or unexplained phenomena for Necropunk. Basically the more mystical side. Not magic of course, but still...
* Heroes of the - - - Essentially more Heroes of the West, more DTO or other Heroes of (the real world in legend and history).
* (gasp) An adventure.
* Tell us YOUR interests, and we can yay or nay them...
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Also want more Heroes of the West.
I really loved writing Heroes of the West. We are out here in Arizona and we get a lot of inspiration from the history around us.
Necropunk stuff is defiantly on the docket.
We've actually published a few adventures but didn't find them profitable honestly. You can see some of them in our sample pack (The others were taken down at one point).
We have considered doing another full campaign setting. There are some very "Little Red" ideas on how to do that. We've messed with ideas like a Miyazaki-esque nature heavy anime setting (complete with kaiju, mecha, and all the trappings), "what if Scott designed a traditional fantasy setting from the ground up and just was allowed to go off the deep end, a very "Fourthworld" Jack Kirby inspired cosmic space adventure (ala New Gods) setting thing, stuff where the entire world is set up in a labyrinth (ala King Minos), one where dungeons are literal living things, etc. We've got a lot of weirdness floating around in pieces that would make a very compelling and new world. I'd love to tackle it but I don't know if that's something I can do in 30 pages so it might not be a "right now" kinda thing.
As for elemental martial classes we've done the Godaiken in Alt. Paths: Magical Classes which is non-vancian (akin to our Tao from Heroes of the East). We also did Thunder Chief in Tome of Spell and Sword which has Vancian casting but has a lot of the things you described as class features.
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As for me, I'd love to see:
Any Necropunk-related.
A Native American-inspired setting. NOT Wild West, but full-blown age of myth.
An African fantasy setting. There is not ONE such supplement out there for PFRPG.
Polynesian Horror.
South-American fantasy inspired by Aztecs, Mayans, etc.
All of those, when done right, would be instant buys for me.
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I'd also be down to support something based on latin american fantasy styles.
maybe it's because i'm mexican and mom was an archeologist, but that stuff is super fascinating to me, but is so rarely well-explored in fantasy.
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Settings are nice but I'm a class fiend.
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Thanks for all the feedback guys!
We have a company meeting tomorrow to lay out our next 6 month releases so it's great to get this kind of input.
And... ghaa! You guys (and others) are really tempting us to put out another campaign setting! :-)
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A Native American-inspired setting. NOT Wild West, but full-blown age of myth.
I'd certainly buy it. I'd probably modify it for a "Colonialism has come" story, a purpose for which I'd find a full blown age of myth Native American setting rather useful. It'd also be nice for a Native American setting to just, you know, be available in general.
An African fantasy setting. There is not ONE such supplement out there for PFRPG.
I'd also buy this.
As an aside, do you use 3.0 content at all? Because Nyambe is pretty good on the African fantasy end. Should work rather well with Pathfinder if you are willing to do some houseruling to bump up the Nyambe classes and add in Pathfinder classes that fit the theme, in fact.
Polynesian Horror.
Yes. I love Polynesian culture, and Hawaiian ghost stories are awesome. Attach it to Kaidan, add in Heroes of the West content, and it would be even more amazing.
Yet again, I'd buy it.
South-American fantasy inspired by Aztecs, Mayans, etc.
My opinion here is the same as for Native American. I'd buy it and modify it for colonialism, and would be quite happy to own it.
An African fantasy setting. There is not ONE such supplement out there for PFRPG.
I believe I saw something like this recently on a blog post here even - it had a lion on the cover and stuff.
I used to love this semi-official D&D setting where a huge plateau had a tiny africa-like setting, but with dinosaurs, isolated from the rest of the world due to height or some such. Can't remember the name at all, but I even had it printed out somewhere. I think it belonged to that living campaign initiative from some decades back.
Myself would love to see an adaptation of William Hope Hodgson's The Night Land. Futuristic horror, dying earth taken over by gigantic eldritch monster, last millions of humans stuck inside a huge metal piramid (The Great Redoubt), carrying a mighty diskos to fry lesser monsters, references to the Ether every other page (hey Interjection Games!), psionic powers.... Hard book, but amazing setting.
We can look into the African thing. To be honest, we write best about what we know and especially with books about specific cultures if they are mishandled it can come off as insulting (rather than being from a place of passion and respect).
And the "tiny africa-like setting, but with dinosaurs, isolated from the rest of the world due to height or some such" is the premise of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's "The Lost World" (which is what Jurassic Park was based on). It was actually set in South America (not sure about the campaign setting you are talking about though).
On a related not (as I'm a huge huge Doyle fan) that book actually introduced his other (somewhat) well know character other than Sherlock in "Professor Challenger". He goes on to star in a number of other really dynamite novels (poison belt, land of mist, etc). It shows Doyle's fascination with the supernatural (which is funny considering he wrote the ever-pragmatic Holmes whose stories often appeared to be supernatural but were always revealed to be mundane). Sorry... caught me in a Doyle mood XD
I digress...
Also while The Night Land sounds interesting I doubt we could get the rights to it.
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Hmm, let me think of some ideas while you guys are taking suggestions:
- First of all, a African supplement would rock; I feel like your Heroes of the West line already covers America based adventures decently, but the Dark Continent rarely get any love. A real shame, as it has a lot of potential. Of course only take a stab at it if you feel like you could do it justice but remember this: your only real competition at this time would be the Southlands. Just saying.
- A Heroes of the Stars would be neat from you guys; I know Necropunk is your team's baby, but I think a book with some setting neutral, space faring player options would be neat. I could see a 'Rocketeer' archetype for the Cavalier replacing his mount for a jet pack, a Astronaut ranger alternate class, and rules for some pre-made rockets and spaceships.
- A long while ago you guys made a book with rouge options and said you were looking for more class suggestions to give a nice set of tools. Well I'd love to see you guys do something for mad science and make a similar books for Alchemists- new discoveries, archetypes, extracts, and of course BOMBS!
- I have always had an idea to change the sorcerer a bit but never felt like I was up to the challenge of the project in mind. See, while I like sorcerers, I think a archetype that replaces spellcasting could be done. The idea is every bloodline gives lists of supernatural options and spell-like abilities, kinda like the warlock of old. Like for instance a Verdant bloodline would have a bunch of bloodline gifts around shooting thorns, spores, and growing fines. I just figured it would be neat to have a mutant base class.
- Gonzo 3 and a Racial Guide Number 5 of course, hehe! I even have a class to offer this time around to Gonzo 3 and I think a race book centered around races made of others that have been altered would be cool- like a race of creatures born from plague carriers or another race that is born from those subjugated to a certain spell. Think vampires and Dreamscared's Elans.
- A book of archetypes and options for Little Red Goblin classes. In hindsight this should be the first one I listed for just how amazing it'd be to have.
That's all I got for now.
Uhm... An urban fantasy-setting like the novel The Iron Dragon's Daughter of Michael Swanwick?
And the "tiny africa-like setting, but with dinosaurs, isolated from the rest of the world due to height or some such" is the premise of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's "The Lost World" (which is what Jurassic Park was based on). It was actually set in South America (not sure about the campaign setting you are talking about though).
Also while The Night Land sounds interesting I doubt we could get the rights to it.
I found it later, it's called Malatra, and it's actually a part of Faerun (Forgotten Realms), just south of Kara-Tur (Oriental Adventures). It was an AD&D setting for the living jungle RPGA - most of it can be easily found around. Good ol' times.
Hodgson died in 1918, on WWI. His stuff is in public domain in almost any country - but the US has some crazy copyright laws, I heard.
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We can look into the African thing. To be honest, we write best about what we know and especially with books about specific cultures if they are mishandled it can come off as insulting (rather than being from a place of passion and respect).
Maybe spin Heroes of the West into an entire campaign setting, but also use Heroes of the East heavily? A Wild West setting with a strong mix of European, East Asian, Mexican, African American, and Amerindian themes would be sweet. California would have a much larger Chinese-American population without the Chinese Exclusion Act, so perhaps play up that angle, with a fantasy setting where such a thing never happened, and the East Asian demographic is much larger. Also needs the threat of war. Perhaps the West is British, not American (so add in some Australian flavor), and Britain might well end up embroiled into a Great War of sorts, which might well lead to raids on the West, since the Royal Navy is no longer capable of taking on all its rivals at once while protecting the Empire. But, the English should be hella Anglo-Saxon, instead of that Anglo-Saxon/French/Neo-Classical mix of Victorian England. Should also be much nicer to the Irish, treating that whole invasion business as unifying the islands into one people, all of whom are vital to the nation, and the Irish should be portrayed as not poor and marginalized for once. Also, after her tribe was massacred, an Indian witch became a necromancer, using the fallen bodies of her kin to fight for revenge. Later on, she became a lich, and is more interested in wanton slaughter than any sort of justice. She's a major threat. Setting also needs Eberronish magitech, because that just plain works.
If you make this, I will buy it. If you don't, I might well make it myself. I might make it myself, anyway. This sounds kinda cool.
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@OmNomNid
Hi Nid! Was hoping to hear from you in this thread ;-)
-I don't hate the notion of doing more PF scifi stuff.
-Class books like Rogue's Gallery are fun. We might take a look at it.
-We did the Invoker (The book's called Pact Magic) that is similar to what you are talking about if you haven't checked it out yet.
-Gonzo 3...let me get done with Gonzo 2 first ;-)
But seriously, we could probably toss together another book at some point.
And... we have a few racial guide books in the air. One is called, "My Humans are Different" and focuses on making the humans in your setting, dare I say it, interesting! We have a "more traditional race book" with a bunch of races that are kind of twists on races (like moon elves that literally live on the moon and playable freed homunculi). We've also got a kind of "anthropomorphic book", but not in the traditional sense. Rather than be like "this is a cat girl" we are like "here are militant , quasi-German, owlbear-kin". It would kind of work on "your favorite monsters, anthropomorphized into player races" (kinda like how we did it with the tarrasqueling). Like bandersnatch people... BANDERSNATCH PEOPLE!
@The Ragi
We are no strangers to complex copyright laws and using other people's IPs. We did a John Cater of Mars supplement a while back (and we also licensed the sergal from their creators). We are not super into converting IPs we are unfamiliar with, though it sounds like a great book series!
@Rosita the Riveter
Sounds like you have something very specific in mind. You should do a write up and, if you want, we've love to have you pitch it to us!
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So, and sorry for the double post, we had our meeting last night to discuss this. The three products that "won" were as follows. Please keep in mind that nothing is "final" and "for sure" until we actually pull the trigger on it.
LRGG Racial Guide 5
This book is our next scheduled release. It has a lot of anthropomorphic races, but not in the traditional sense. Some of the races in there are hybrids of famous monsters (like bandersnatch-folk and owlbear-folks) while others are more traditionally animal hybrids but of unusual combinations. We've got slug-folk, Japanese catfish folks, whake-folk, etc.
Alternate Paths: Divine
We couldn't resist! We've got lots of material for an awesome divine book, for alternate rules for play, and some classes you won't believe! This book probably won't be as long as the other alternate paths books but it will be just as impact.
"Heroes of the Waves"
The name of this third book is kind of up in the air at the moment but it's going to cover heroes from the Philippines, Polynesia and Hawaii. Christina, one of our editors, my fiancée, and a (dual) citizen of New Zealand is big on Maori culture and mythology so we are going to incorporate a lot of her stuff. There will be some Eskrima stuff and traditional Filipino weapons!
Other stuff is on the way and in the works but nothing is planned at the moment.
I'll be waiting for "Heroes of the Waves". Definately the sort of thing I would want to buy.
Not sure as how my idea will work for something published, on further thought, because of how specific it is. I kinda have a habit of getting really niche. I started using parts of it for New Old West, which is probably the nichest you can get.
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They all sound great; can't wait to be a bander-snatch man!
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I would like to mention something I REALLY want to see with Heroes of the Waves. I want it to be compatible with Heroes of the Jade Oath, Kaidan, and Razor Coast modified for early firearms, and of course with Heroes of the West, so I can combine all those products into one big Pan-Pacific horror/dark fantasy/Pirates of the Not-Caribbean mashup.
I would love your company forever.
I would like to mention something I REALLY want to see with Heroes of the Waves. I want it to be compatible with Heroes of the Jade Oath, Kaidan, and Razor Coast modified for early firearms, and of course with Heroes of the West, so I can combine all those products into one big Pan-Pacific horror/dark fantasy/Pirates of the Not-Caribbean mashup.
I would love your company forever.
In what way do you want to see them compatible? We tend to reference the firearms rules in general (when we touched on them in Heroes of the West) rather than re-write them.
In what way do you want to see them compatible? We tend to reference the firearms rules in general (when we touched on them in Heroes of the West) rather than re-write them.I would like to mention something I REALLY want to see with Heroes of the Waves. I want it to be compatible with Heroes of the Jade Oath, Kaidan, and Razor Coast modified for early firearms, and of course with Heroes of the West, so I can combine all those products into one big Pan-Pacific horror/dark fantasy/Pirates of the Not-Caribbean mashup.
I would love your company forever.
I guess by that I mean I wouldn't want a whole new divine magic system based on Polynesian mythology that replaces the defaint Pathfinder divine magic system.
Now that you mention it, I don't know why I ever thought it might not be compatible with Razor Coast, and by extension Jade Oath and Kaidan. It is a character options book like Heroes of the West and not a setting book, yes? So it'll be compatible. I'm just being an airhead.
In what way do you want to see them compatible? We tend to reference the firearms rules in general (when we touched on them in Heroes of the West) rather than re-write them.I would like to mention something I REALLY want to see with Heroes of the Waves. I want it to be compatible with Heroes of the Jade Oath, Kaidan, and Razor Coast modified for early firearms, and of course with Heroes of the West, so I can combine all those products into one big Pan-Pacific horror/dark fantasy/Pirates of the Not-Caribbean mashup.
I would love your company forever.
I guess by that I mean I wouldn't want a whole new divine magic system based on Polynesian mythology that replaces the defaint Pathfinder divine magic system.
Now that you mention it, I don't know why I ever thought it might not be compatible with Razor Coast, and by extension Jade Oath and Kaidan. It is a character options book like Heroes of the West and not a setting book, yes? So it'll be compatible. I'm just being an airhead.
Correct, it is not a setting book.
With our "heroes of" line we try to bring cultural content to players that is not normally encompassed in Pathfinder. We tend not to "reinvent the wheel" in these books; that's more reserved for our Alternate Paths line. On a related note- the Tataued Warrior in Alt. Path Martial is very poly themed and was written with it in mind.
In what way do you want to see them compatible? We tend to reference the firearms rules in general (when we touched on them in Heroes of the West) rather than re-write them.I would like to mention something I REALLY want to see with Heroes of the Waves. I want it to be compatible with Heroes of the Jade Oath, Kaidan, and Razor Coast modified for early firearms, and of course with Heroes of the West, so I can combine all those products into one big Pan-Pacific horror/dark fantasy/Pirates of the Not-Caribbean mashup.
I would love your company forever.
I guess by that I mean I wouldn't want a whole new divine magic system based on Polynesian mythology that replaces the defaint Pathfinder divine magic system.
Now that you mention it, I don't know why I ever thought it might not be compatible with Razor Coast, and by extension Jade Oath and Kaidan. It is a character options book like Heroes of the West and not a setting book, yes? So it'll be compatible. I'm just being an airhead.
Correct, it is not a setting book.
With our "heroes of" line we try to bring cultural content to players that is not normally encompassed in Pathfinder. We tend not to "reinvent the wheel" in these books; that's more reserved for our Alternate Paths line. On a related note- the Tataued Warrior in Alt. Path Martial is very poly themed and was written with it in mind.
Yea, I'd buy that. I did like Heroes of the West quite a bit.