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I knew it. I figured it was a measure against fleas and typhus when trench warfare became a thing.
It was both the new styles of warfare, but also something that happens when any army (or large group) goes into a new land. They are not acclimated against the natural wildlife and environment. And actually at the time it was a bit of a scandal, as the shaved head and face was not typically viewed as desirable or professional. Generally only the wealthy or criminals followed that standard, where are having a mustache, long (kept) hair, and facial hair where signs of both masculinity and personal care.
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Today I Learned: wedding showers are apparently not usually co-ed and that's why the jack and jill party exists.
Did the non co-ed wedding showers develop out of the habit of people only making friends with the same gender? Which is also dumb?
And which one do I go to? Or do I just go to both.
Whichever you are invited to? Which hopefully does not involve a poor assumption about your gender...
As gay men, my fiancé and I get invited to bachelorette parties and bridal showers all the time. While I never want to be ungrateful for an invitation (and attend fairly often), it does bug me if I think about it too much. I mean, if guys are not invited, but I am, what are they saying about me?
I'll be sure to dress very masculine for the women's party and very feminine for the men's party. ;)
Anyway I was actually invited to a jack & jill so thankfully gender is a non-issue here.
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Today I Learned: wedding showers are apparently not usually co-ed and that's why the jack and jill party exists.
Did the non co-ed wedding showers develop out of the habit of people only making friends with the same gender? Which is also dumb?
And which one do I go to? Or do I just go to both.
Whichever you are invited to? Which hopefully does not involve a poor assumption about your gender...
As gay men, my fiancé and I get invited to bachelorette parties and bridal showers all the time. While I never want to be ungrateful for an invitation (and attend fairly often), it does bug me if I think about it too much. I mean, if guys are not invited, but I am, what are they saying about me?
*Shrugs* They don't perceive you and your fiance as potentially molesting the women most likely. More importantly, they think you two are pretty cool to have for something as fairly important as a bachelorette party/bridal shower. Whatever way, parties are parties. w00t!
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Yeah the impression I always got about the segregated parties was to keep one group from using the get-together as a method of picking up members of the other.
Even if I was meeting in a very conservative environment I'll still wear my mjǫlnir.
Even if I was drafted into the goddamn military I'll still wear the mjǫlnir. (I imagine there's some kind of ludicrous regulation against pendants)
If anyone wanted to confiscate any symbol of Thor from me they will have to pry it off of my cold, dead body.
Even if I was meeting in a very conservative environment I'll still wear my mjǫlnir.
Even if I was drafted into the g%##$@n military I'll still wear the mjǫlnir. (I imagine there's some kind of ludicrous regulation against pendants)
If anyone wanted to confiscate any symbol of Thor from me they will have to pry it off of my cold, dead body.
What about a tattoo? *grin*
Yeah the impression I always got about the segregated parties was to keep one group from using the get-together as a method of picking up members of the other.
That's certainly not going to work on gay people ;)
What about a tattoo? *grin*Even if I was meeting in a very conservative environment I'll still wear my mjǫlnir.
Even if I was drafted into the g%##$@n military I'll still wear the mjǫlnir. (I imagine there's some kind of ludicrous regulation against pendants)
If anyone wanted to confiscate any symbol of Thor from me they will have to pry it off of my cold, dead body.
Actually I might get a mjǫlnir tattoo someday.
And if anybody wanted to confiscate that, they'll have to cut it off of my corpse. I will never laser it off.
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What about a tattoo? *grin*Even if I was meeting in a very conservative environment I'll still wear my mjǫlnir.
Even if I was drafted into the g%##$@n military I'll still wear the mjǫlnir. (I imagine there's some kind of ludicrous regulation against pendants)
If anyone wanted to confiscate any symbol of Thor from me they will have to pry it off of my cold, dead body.
Then the "pry it off my body" become more literal?
EDIT: Dang, forum's full of ninjas.
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Yeah the impression I always got about the segregated parties was to keep one group from using the get-together as a method of picking up members of the other.That's certainly not going to work on gay people ;)
Don't tell the [insert frothing-at-the-mouth groups here] that! They'll ... I dunno, picket and make asses of themselves or something. ;)
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What about a tattoo? *grin*Even if I was meeting in a very conservative environment I'll still wear my mjǫlnir.
Even if I was drafted into the g%##$@n military I'll still wear the mjǫlnir. (I imagine there's some kind of ludicrous regulation against pendants)
If anyone wanted to confiscate any symbol of Thor from me they will have to pry it off of my cold, dead body.
Then the "pry it off my body" become more literal?
EDIT: Dang, forum's full of ninjas.
If it's good enough for a trait, it's good enough for the real world. ^______^
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In the US military, males are allowed to wear one religious item around the neck. Females have a bit more slack here, but in this case not much. However, it does need to be something that can easily fit below the shirt, regardless of faith, and it must be worn beneath the uniform.
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Yeah the impression I always got about the segregated parties was to keep one group from using the get-together as a method of picking up members of the other.That's certainly not going to work on gay people ;)
Yeah most of the people I know wouldn't even think of that.
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What about a tattoo? *grin*Even if I was meeting in a very conservative environment I'll still wear my mjǫlnir.
Even if I was drafted into the g%##$@n military I'll still wear the mjǫlnir. (I imagine there's some kind of ludicrous regulation against pendants)
If anyone wanted to confiscate any symbol of Thor from me they will have to pry it off of my cold, dead body.
Actually I might get a mjǫlnir tattoo someday.
And if anybody wanted to confiscate that, they'll have to cut it off of my corpse. I will never laser it off.
You'll be partying in Valhalla when that happens. Win-win!
I will never laser it off.
That sounds even more painful than getting the tattoo in the first place. O_o
In the US military, males are allowed to wear one religious item around the neck. Females have a bit more slack here, but in this case not much. However, it does need to be something that can easily fit below the shirt, regardless of faith, and it must be worn beneath the uniform.
That's good enough for me.
I will never laser it off.That sounds even more painful than getting the tattoo in the first place. O_o
"Laser tattoo removal is uncomfortable - many patients say it is worse than getting the tattoo on. The pain is often described to be similar to that of hot oil on the skin, or a "snap" from an elastic band. Depending on the patient's pain threshold, and while some patients may forgo anesthesia altogether, most patients will require some form of local anesthesia. Pre-treatment might include the application of an anesthetic cream under occlusion for 45 to 90 minutes prior to the laser treatment session. A better method is complete anesthesia which can be administered locally by injections of 1% to 2% lidocaine with epinephrine.
A simple, new technique (published in March 2014) which helps to reduce the pain sensation felt by patients has been described by MJ Murphy [22] He used a standard microscope glass slide pressed against the tattooed skin and fired the laser through the glass. Results on 31 volunteers showed a significant reduction of up to 50% in pain alongside a reduction in blistering and punctate bleeding. This technique represents the simplest and most effective method to reduce the pain sensation using a non-invasive procedure."
From wikipedia
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What about a tattoo? *grin*It's a bit of a controversy at the moment (US only again), but basically as long as it's not visible while wearing pants and a long sleeve shirt, it's fine. It doesn't matter what the tattoo is, though.
Though accurate, they give all kinds of exemptions for this. Small hand tattoo's for example. There is wild variation by branch and "job." Army/Marine grunt can probably get an exemption for anything short of a face tattoo. Air force intelligence operative most likely can't have one anywhere.
I almost got a tattoo, once.
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*Shrugs* They don't perceive you and your fiance as potentially molesting the women most likely. More importantly, they think you two are pretty cool to have for something as fairly important as a bachelorette party/bridal shower. Whatever way, parties are parties. w00t!Today I Learned: wedding showers are apparently not usually co-ed and that's why the jack and jill party exists.
Did the non co-ed wedding showers develop out of the habit of people only making friends with the same gender? Which is also dumb?
And which one do I go to? Or do I just go to both.
Whichever you are invited to? Which hopefully does not involve a poor assumption about your gender...
As gay men, my fiancé and I get invited to bachelorette parties and bridal showers all the time. While I never want to be ungrateful for an invitation (and attend fairly often), it does bug me if I think about it too much. I mean, if guys are not invited, but I am, what are they saying about me?
That is how I tend to take it. Plus, if there are strippers, I'm not complaining.
However, if I never got invited to an all-female baby shower again, I wouldn't miss them.
What about a tattoo? *grin*It's a bit of a controversy at the moment (US only again), but basically as long as it's not visible while wearing pants and a long sleeve shirt, it's fine. It doesn't matter what the tattoo is, though.
Hmm, one of my tattoo ideas is for Lichtenberg figures running down my left arm from my palm, resembling the scars one gets when struck by lightning.
Either it might not be allowed, or it might pass for actual scars.
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Though accurate, they give all kinds of exemptions for this. Small hand tattoo's for example. There is wild variation by branch and "job." Army/Marine grunt can probably get an exemption for anything short of a face tattoo. Air force intelligence operative most likely can't have one anywhere.What about a tattoo? *grin*It's a bit of a controversy at the moment (US only again), but basically as long as it's not visible while wearing pants and a long sleeve shirt, it's fine. It doesn't matter what the tattoo is, though.
That's a bit on why I mentioned it was controversial. Pretty recently they switched the regulation as part of the cutbacks, making it much more strict. It didn't go over well, and also involved a great deal of "grandfathering" for everyone that was already in.
My understanding is that that just switched back within the last few months, again allowing "sleeves", (or as long as it isn't visible with a long short rather than a short shirt).
One of the main backlashes was that getting tattoos is generally accepted as a military tradition, and that the original reading of the regulation did allow the people that had been grandfathered in to stay, but it didn't leave any room for advancement. So someone could stay in, but wouldn't be allowed to go to, for example, an officer candidate school.
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Random guess: they don't want people strangling Congresscritters with stringy bits. ;)Isn't all good jewelry hand crafted? Seems a bit pointless to even bother including such a thing.On a semi-related subject, an organization I was in sent us a pamphlet on business attire for our visit to Capitol Hill, and noticed that among the forbidden items was 'hand-crafted jewelry'
Excuse you, my wooden hammer pendant is religious. It never comes off.
Naturally, I wore it anyway. Nobody on Capitol Hill noticed or cared, and the meetings I had were great.
That wasn't the exact clause and is more of a paraphrase.
I found the pamphlet in question and the kind of jewelry that was allowed for women was gold and silver and pearls but not "crafts". And for men necklaces are not allowed. So by either rulebook my pendant is forbidden.
Then again the pamphlet came from the University of Texas and I was on capitol hill meeting with people in the offices of Connecticut congressmen.
But... but... don't most Congresscritters wear ties? If you were security trying to prevent harm to your client, why would you worry about a visitor's thin necklace when the client is wearing a pre-fitted garrote around his own neck?
Why do people who get into fights have peircings and those absurd ear disks.
They're just giving people handles.
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But... but... don't most Congresscritters wear ties? If you were security trying to prevent harm to your client, why would you worry about a visitor's thin necklace when the client is wearing a pre-fitted garrote around his own neck?Random guess: they don't want people strangling Congresscritters with stringy bits. ;)Isn't all good jewelry hand crafted? Seems a bit pointless to even bother including such a thing.On a semi-related subject, an organization I was in sent us a pamphlet on business attire for our visit to Capitol Hill, and noticed that among the forbidden items was 'hand-crafted jewelry'
Excuse you, my wooden hammer pendant is religious. It never comes off.
Naturally, I wore it anyway. Nobody on Capitol Hill noticed or cared, and the meetings I had were great.
That wasn't the exact clause and is more of a paraphrase.
I found the pamphlet in question and the kind of jewelry that was allowed for women was gold and silver and pearls but not "crafts". And for men necklaces are not allowed. So by either rulebook my pendant is forbidden.
Then again the pamphlet came from the University of Texas and I was on capitol hill meeting with people in the offices of Connecticut congressmen.
Because Congresscritters are Bosses that don't always adhere to their advisors' advise? It is awfully handy when they're wearing their own cause of death.
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I am not small norse wolf.
I am trying to be not quite so large norse wolf. Took a walk on the local bridge, like I do every once in a while. Muscles felt a little weak today for some reason, so i was making more stops than usual.
walk walk walk. Lean on railing to rest. Walk walk walk lean on railing to rest.
police called because people think I'm going to jump despite that...
A) Pretty obvious the I needed a break after a few miles. Honestly looking at me you'd wonder how I got out that far.
B) No way I'm getting over that railing.....
Sign somebody cared?
:P
Didn't want a hole in the tankers passing under probably...
Vegetarian beans. I mean.. beans are a vegetable (well fruit if you want to get technical) shouldn't all other kinds of beans be beans and SOMETHING to NOT be vegetarian?
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Why do you take the slower bike to work, out of curiosity?Not being used to new much lighter and faster road bike and completely eating it on a curb in front of a Sheriff who stopped to witness me wailing loudly in shock on the ground. On the plus side, not hurt badly, just going to have a super bruised hand by end of the day/tomorrow :(I have two bikes - one for work which is really low, has no gears, and handles like the bicycle equivalent of a tank - one private one which is a fairly regular city bike that's about 3-4 times as fast as the work one. Every spring when I start using the private bike again I have at least four or five incidents where I nearly hit the curb because I've forgotten how much faster and wider it takes the curves.
To start with, I use it at work, not just for getting to work.
The slower bike is (A) not mine, but the company's. (B) At a better height for me to reach people's mailboxes, meaning that while getting to and from work would be faster on the faster bike, when I'm at work, the slower bike is actually the faster one.
Also, because it's built to be the bicycle version of a lorry, it's pretty much impossible to fall over on it, even when the ground is covered in ice.
Why do you take the slower bike to work, out of curiosity?Not being used to new much lighter and faster road bike and completely eating it on a curb in front of a Sheriff who stopped to witness me wailing loudly in shock on the ground. On the plus side, not hurt badly, just going to have a super bruised hand by end of the day/tomorrow :(I have two bikes - one for work which is really low, has no gears, and handles like the bicycle equivalent of a tank - one private one which is a fairly regular city bike that's about 3-4 times as fast as the work one. Every spring when I start using the private bike again I have at least four or five incidents where I nearly hit the curb because I've forgotten how much faster and wider it takes the curves.To start with, I use it at work, not just for getting to work.
The slower bike is (A) not mine, but the company's. (B) At a better height for me to reach people's mailboxes, meaning that while getting to and from work would be faster on the faster bike, when I'm at work, the slower bike is actually the faster one.
Also, because it's built to be the bicycle version of a lorry, it's pretty much impossible to fall over on it, even when the ground is covered in ice.
Oh! I understand now.
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single-sex single occupancy bathrooms.
I think segregating bathrooms by sex is stupid to begin with (causing problems for trans people and intersex people, since if you don't "pass" as the sex for the bathroom you're entering you might get harassed or assaulted) and that co-ed options should at least exist as often as possible
but single-sex single occupancy bathrooms make no sense by any stretch of the imagination, even within the faulty logic that in every co-ed public bathroom, there is a creeper waiting to attack women (as if there aren't better places for this hypothetical creeper to find women to attack in the first place, and as if the overwhelming amount of sexual assault isn't committed by people the victim personally knows, rendering the bathroom scenario moot).
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Captain Yesterday fun fact: I've never been to a bachelor party, even my own :-)
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Today I Learned: wedding showers are apparently not usually co-ed and that's why the jack and jill party exists.
Did the non co-ed wedding showers develop out of the habit of people only making friends with the same gender? Which is also dumb?
And which one do I go to? Or do I just go to both.
I have only recently gone to a mixed gender baby shower, which was fun, but I am usually opposed to the idea of going to a baby shower due to bad childhood memories.
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Today I Learned: wedding showers are apparently not usually co-ed and that's why the jack and jill party exists.
Did the non co-ed wedding showers develop out of the habit of people only making friends with the same gender? Which is also dumb?
And which one do I go to? Or do I just go to both.
For my friend's bachelorette party I was barefoot and in the kitchen preparing Cajun food and drinks for everyone.
My greatest pride: To this day all the women still talk about the food. If you mention the stripper, the gifts, etc., they just say, "Creepy. Tawdry. But man! Do you remember that dirty rice?!?! Mmmmmmmm!"
As for my bachelor party, the night before my wedding same said bachelorette kicked me out of my house, so I ended up in a Motel 6. My brothers found out, said, "That ain't right!", and drove out to throw me a "proper bachelor party".
Which consisted of bringing a couple bottles of Cold Duck Sparkling Burgundy (dumped down the sink because even my Mad Dog-loving brother couldn't stomach it), Taco Bell take-out, and HBO.
Woo hoo?
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Also the engagement party I went to was actually fairly fun, during the moments when I wasn't sitting around watching old polish people talk.
Old Polish people do a lot of talking! They never seem to run out of things to talk about.
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I've never been to one either. of either gender.
I've never been to one either. of either gender.
Awesome! I've always wanted to be on the giving or receiving end of a vulcan neck pinch!
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As a "middle namer" I too would find this helpful, although I admit that the use of my legal first name is not as problematic as it would be for a transperson.A stupid real-world thing you notice when you're a trans person with a chosen name is that on registration forms and whatnot, people tend to not be specific about whether they just want your actual name, or your government name.
I don't like giving out my government name in situations I don't need to give it, but if the name they ask for has to be my government name, I need to know that, so I know which name to give, thanks
you mean your first name isn't Celestial?! I feel like I have been living a lie...
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Today I Learned: wedding showers are apparently not usually co-ed and that's why the jack and jill party exists.
Did the non co-ed wedding showers develop out of the habit of people only making friends with the same gender? Which is also dumb?
And which one do I go to? Or do I just go to both.
For my friend's bachelorette party I was barefoot and in the kitchen preparing Cajun food and drinks for everyone.
My greatest pride: To this day all the women still talk about the food. If you mention the stripper, the gifts, etc., they just say, "Creepy. Tawdry. But man! Do you remember that dirty rice?!?! Mmmmmmmm!"
As for my bachelor party, the night before my wedding same said bachelorette kicked me out of my house, so I ended up in a Motel 6. My brothers found out, said, "That ain't right!", and drove out to throw me a "proper bachelor party".
Which consisted of bringing a couple bottles of Cold Duck Sparkling Burgundy (dumped down the sink because even my Mad Dog-loving brother couldn't stomach it), Taco Bell take-out, and HBO.
Woo hoo?
Wrong house! Abort! Abort! Nobodyshome doesn't have a daughter! Darn it, that's why I told you not to trust the addresses from the Ashley Madison info dump
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Wrong house! Abort! Abort! Nobodyshome doesn't have a daughter! Darn it, that's why I told you not to trust the addresses from the Ashley Madison info dumpToday I Learned: wedding showers are apparently not usually co-ed and that's why the jack and jill party exists.
Did the non co-ed wedding showers develop out of the habit of people only making friends with the same gender? Which is also dumb?
And which one do I go to? Or do I just go to both.
For my friend's bachelorette party I was barefoot and in the kitchen preparing Cajun food and drinks for everyone.
My greatest pride: To this day all the women still talk about the food. If you mention the stripper, the gifts, etc., they just say, "Creepy. Tawdry. But man! Do you remember that dirty rice?!?! Mmmmmmmm!"
As for my bachelor party, the night before my wedding same said bachelorette kicked me out of my house, so I ended up in a Motel 6. My brothers found out, said, "That ain't right!", and drove out to throw me a "proper bachelor party".
Which consisted of bringing a couple bottles of Cold Duck Sparkling Burgundy (dumped down the sink because even my Mad Dog-loving brother couldn't stomach it), Taco Bell take-out, and HBO.
Woo hoo?
damn.
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Shouldn't you be doing all of this on a bike?
With a really, really BIG trailer?
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single-sex single occupancy bathrooms.
I think segregating bathrooms by sex is stupid to begin with (causing problems for trans people and intersex people, since if you don't "pass" as the sex for the bathroom you're entering you might get harassed or assaulted) and that co-ed options should at least exist as often as possible
but single-sex single occupancy bathrooms make no sense by any stretch of the imagination, even within the faulty logic that in every co-ed public bathroom, there is a creeper waiting to attack women (as if there aren't better places for this hypothetical creeper to find women to attack in the first place, and as if the overwhelming amount of sexual assault isn't committed by people the victim personally knows, rendering the bathroom scenario moot).
Fortunately, around here there is some small modicum of sense in that if one sex's single-occupancy bathroom is taken and the other is open, no one bats an eye if you use it.
Unfortunately, I am also well aware of the issues around co-ed multi-person bathrooms (it's not the attackers, it's the voyeurs), so I can at least sympathize with those who would prefer to keep multi-person bathrooms single-sex. However, I also sympathize with your issues.
So how about stalls that actually block other people's vision? What a concept! Higher-end hotels and restaurants have them. For a few hundred extra bucks, the situation is resolved and you need one bathroom instead of two, saving you thousands.
Seems like a no-brainer...
Batchelor party means rented car.
All stains are thereby deniable.
single-sex single occupancy bathrooms.
I think segregating bathrooms by sex is stupid to begin with (causing problems for trans people and intersex people, since if you don't "pass" as the sex for the bathroom you're entering you might get harassed or assaulted) and that co-ed options should at least exist as often as possible
but single-sex single occupancy bathrooms make no sense by any stretch of the imagination, even within the faulty logic that in every co-ed public bathroom, there is a creeper waiting to attack women (as if there aren't better places for this hypothetical creeper to find women to attack in the first place, and as if the overwhelming amount of sexual assault isn't committed by people the victim personally knows, rendering the bathroom scenario moot).
Fortunately, around here there is some small modicum of sense in that if one sex's single-occupancy bathroom is taken and the other is open, no one bats an eye if you use it.
Unfortunately, I am also well aware of the issues around co-ed multi-person bathrooms (it's not the attackers, it's the voyeurs), so I can at least sympathize with those who would prefer to keep multi-person bathrooms single-sex. However, I also sympathize with your issues.
So how about stalls that actually block other people's vision? What a concept! Higher-end hotels and restaurants have them. For a few hundred extra bucks, the situation is resolved and you need one bathroom instead of two, saving you thousands.
Seems like a no-brainer...
Yeah I can see how voyeurs might be a problem.
At the same time I don't see what's stopping voyeurs from ogling people of the same gender if they swing that way.
And yes, stalls that actually block other people's vision would be nice.
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no more than two abreast, my brothers.I suspect this is going to drive me to the "Apologize to Chris" thread, but here are some common ones in my neighborhood:
Joggers running in the street, especially after dark
Said joggers and other pedestrians crossing against red lights with traffic coming, especially in dark clothing at night
Bicyclists riding in parallel while traffic backs up behind them. Isn't bicycling dangerous enough without further infuriating drivers?
Bicyclists who don't wear helmets. In 40+ years and tens of thousands of miles of commuting by bicycle, my mother and I have broken "only" 3. That's 3 skull fractures our family didn't have to suffer through
And they complain they should be respected while on the road, yet they fly through stop signs and red lights with reckless abandon, cut through gas stations to avoid stopping, and are generally a complete nuisance.
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When people use a common phrase/expression, but get the words wrong in such a way as to demonstrate that they have no idea what they're actually saying, and are instead mindlessly parroting something they don't even understand, just because they think other people say it.
Good example:
"For all intensive purposes," when what they really meant was "for all intents and purposes".fwgafvegag
I like to mix up the phrase "sharpest knife in the drawer" and its variants
Sharpest brick in the fire, and so forth.
Forewarned is half an octopus!