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Whats up reg PACG at GenCon?
Any report from somebody at location?

For us Germans it is almost impossible to attend...

Grand Lodge

What are you asking?

There are lots of people playing the card guild scenarios and the open. Demo area was very busy. I was demoing the entire afternoon session until the exhibit hall closed. Lots of interest.

In fact, the Sagamore Ballroom has been hopping for GenCon. The RPG sessions have been very full and the nightly specials have been packed.

Grand Lodge

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(Btw, the GenCon only promo is SWEEEEET!)


Theryon Stormrune wrote:
(Btw, the GenCon only promo is SWEEEEET!)

Vic promised to ship me 5 copies of these exclusive promos.

But what do you do when there is the "Spiel 2015" in Essen/Germany?
They introduce a whole bunch of exclusive Convention promos only at this German fair.

Did you already got a bunch of signed promos for me from the Paizo booth?


I know I didn't! :-)

Grand Lodge

Awwww, we were supposed to get signed promos for you?

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Myfly wrote:
Theryon Stormrune wrote:
(Btw, the GenCon only promo is SWEEEEET!)
Vic promised to ship me 5 copies of these exclusive promos.

He said he ran out.


Theryon Stormrune wrote:
Myfly wrote:
Theryon Stormrune wrote:
(Btw, the GenCon only promo is SWEEEEET!)
Vic promised to ship me 5 copies of these exclusive promos.
He said he ran out.

Hopefully you we quick enough to save some for me...

Signed, please :-)

Grand Lodge

Nope!


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I hear tell there was a reward for GMing in the RPG that lets you play Arueshalae in organized play, as well as other such card guild related boons. ("Boons" in this context refers to RPG rewards, not cards in the card game.) So, anyone got a list of all the possible PACG related boons like this?

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I asked about the other boons and was told Arushaela was it that the person knew of.

I definitely need to hit PaizoCon and / or Gen Con next year. I don't like boons, but if they exist I want to have them.


As far as I know, PACG boon sheets are relatively new. I only know of the Paizocon boon this year and the Gencon boon this year. I don't think there's a seasonal PACG boon (When running events, I was given the normal Seasonal GM boon).

Also, AFAIK Paizocon and Gencon boons are exclusive to those conventions and that year. If you really want the boon, you'll have to trade for them.

Paizocon 2015's volunteer boon is a hybrid PFS/PFSACG boon that grants you Giantslayer and gives you a AD#-1 card feat (any card feat, and you can save it up).

If you volunteered to run PFS or PACG tables at either event you would have gotten them (at least if you meet the minimum slot requirement).

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PaizoCon had one too? Ugh


Ok wait, I'm a bit confused. A boon sheet is what? Something that you hold on to in order to claim your reward later?

So, for instance, there was a reward that gave you something in the card guild for completing the RPG Plunder & Peril in the RPG society. Would that not have been a "boon sheet" but just something on your chronicle sheet? Or was that one just something you forgot about? Or are "boon sheets" more like special rewards for doing things besides the typical playing or GMing (i.e. like a convention reward or something)?

Basically, I'm saying, please explain boon sheets to me and tell me if there is any different between them and other rewards. Thanks.

Grand Lodge

At the major cons, you get a token for playing or GMing scenarios. That's both RPG and ACG. For every two tokens, you get to roll a d20 at the treasure booth. You can get stuff from swag to books to boons. Boon sheets are different than chronicle sheets. They can be all sorts of things for your character or for the player. RPG chronicle sheets contain rewards and/or equipment.


Ah. Ok. Thanks for the explanation. That makes everything make much more sense.

Grand Lodge

Also, volunteers might have had access to some direct boons but I only did one session of volunteering (demoing) so I'm not sure.


I have a full set of the pacg boons and will happily share their text after I get home and unpack, feel free to poke me in a few days if I don't get them up.

Grand Lodge

You mean after sharing one of them Arushalae boons with your favorite PACG'ers, right? ;)

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Theryon Stormrune wrote:
At the major cons, you get a token for playing or GMing scenarios. That's both RPG and ACG. For every two tokens, you get to roll a d20 at the treasure booth. You can get stuff from swag to books to boons. Boon sheets are different than chronicle sheets. They can be all sorts of things for your character or for the player. RPG chronicle sheets contain rewards and/or equipment.

I wondered what that token was for. Got to play a single ACG scenario (1-2D Assassins) at Gen Con. It was very fun, but I never had the free time to get back and play a second one. I'll remember for next year that there is swag for playing twice.

I missed the ACG seminar this year - what were the announcements of note?


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ThreeEyedSloth wrote:
You mean after sharing one of them Arushalae boons with your favorite PACG'ers, right? ;)

Why would I give one to Rand?


ryric wrote:
Theryon Stormrune wrote:
At the major cons, you get a token for playing or GMing scenarios. That's both RPG and ACG. For every two tokens, you get to roll a d20 at the treasure booth. You can get stuff from swag to books to boons. Boon sheets are different than chronicle sheets. They can be all sorts of things for your character or for the player. RPG chronicle sheets contain rewards and/or equipment.

I wondered what that token was for. Got to play a single ACG scenario (1-2D Assassins) at Gen Con. It was very fun, but I never had the free time to get back and play a second one. I'll remember for next year that there is swag for playing twice.

I missed the ACG seminar this year - what were the announcements of note?

That prize token is still good next year.


The only roll boons I saw at PaizoCon only pertain to the RPG - a minor reward like getting a better day check or a small feat. Some of them can be very useful. The only PACG boon at PaizoCon was the volunteer boon.

Not sure about GenCon.

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Pirate Rob wrote:
That prize token is still good next year.

Though, anecdotally, probably not after your appropriately-named dog Loki decides to turn it into splinters.

Sigh ;)

That said, everyone should want to come play ACG with us at PaizoCon and GenCon. Do eeeeet.


Keith Richmond wrote:
Pirate Rob wrote:
That prize token is still good next year.

Though, anecdotally, probably not after your appropriately-named dog Loki decides to turn it into splinters.

Sigh ;)

That said, everyone should want to come play ACG with us at PaizoCon and GenCon. Do eeeeet.

I can see how travel and time obligations can be a deterrent to attending these though. I actually had to skip out this year because the number of alternate arrangements I would have had to make would be too much.

I'll make an effort to attend next year!


Gen Con was SO FUN (as always)..

My wife and I played the two unreleased classes for our characters. (There was a table where you could borrow a deck). We brought the class decks we already owned but ended up playing characters from the unreleased decks instead when we saw we could do that. I played one of the Druids, Maznar, loved playing him, was a blast. My wife played Raz the Paladin. Was awesomely fun.

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Keith Richmond wrote:
Pirate Rob wrote:
That prize token is still good next year.

Though, anecdotally, probably not after your appropriately-named dog Loki decides to turn it into splinters.

Sigh ;)

That said, everyone should want to come play ACG with us at PaizoCon and GenCon. Do eeeeet.

I tried, but ran into some unexpected financial, eh, booboos, that kept me from being able to. I'm already saving for PaizoCon AND Gen Con though!

Grand Lodge

Yeah, I have a few (8) tokens saved up. (Although most are from RPG events!)

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It's good to know they can carry on to future years. Are these general tokens for the con, or Paizo-specific tokens that are only usable for Paizo related rewards. If the latter, are GenCon and PaizoCon tokens interchangeable and mixable?


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Andrew L Klein wrote:
It's good to know they can carry on to future years. Are these general tokens for the con, or Paizo-specific tokens that are only usable for Paizo related rewards. If the latter, are GenCon and PaizoCon tokens interchangeable and mixable?

They are Paizo-specific tokens for Paizo specific rewards (typically a boon sheet, but if you roll well you might end up with a softcover or hardcover book). They are interchangable between PaizoCon and GenCon, as the same rewards system is used.

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Cool. Are things like race boons and Arueshaela usable for multiple characters? Or, in the RPG for example, would I have to have multiple Goblin boon sheets to build a Goblin? Not that that'll happen, I envy those lucky few who get Goblins. I wonder how many still play...


You use 1 boon sheet on 1 character, at least in the RPG. The seasonal GM boon this summer though has an option to combine several racial boons into a new one.

However, Goblin boons are very very rare because they were an early GenCon boon.


In the RPG, each boon is assigned to one character (ex: 20084-4), allowing that one character some special ability. So if you had a boon that allows you to create a character of a special race, it only allows you to create one character and you have to permanently assign that boon to the character at creation.

You can assign any number of boons to a character, though generally only one of any specific name per character. (So if you had two sheets whose boon was named "Lucky Die", you have to assign them to two different characters.)

While some boons are PaizoCon and/or Gen Con exclusive, most aren't. If you go to a local game convention or other event whose PFS organizers receive prize support, they'll have many of the same boons you could have gotten at Gen Con that year. I don't know if the Arueshalae boon is one or the other, but GMing at your local cons is a good way to get boons.

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zeroth_hour wrote:

You use 1 boon sheet on 1 character, at least in the RPG. The seasonal GM boon this summer though has an option to combine several racial boons into a new one.

However, Goblin boons are very very rare because they were an early GenCon boon.

Yea I saw a Goblin archetype a couple weeks ago and thought "Oh my gosh that would make the most awesome PFS character ever!" Then I went to the Addition Resources and saw that they were by boon only. It didn't take long hunting one down to discover how rare they were and why. Only 16 or 20 in the world if I remember. I was a sad panda monk non-Goblin player.


Someone on the forums said that all the RPG goblin boon characters were dead, but I guess that isn't true. Yes, super rare.

So the boon for volunteering is a boon to play Arushalae? Pretty nice.

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Get to show the volunteers how much we appreciate them _and_ neatly avoid the problem of being inundated with tables full of her? Tanis has some pretty smart ideas sometimes :)

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Jason S wrote:

Someone on the forums said that all the RPG goblin boon characters were dead, but I guess that isn't true. Yes, super rare.

So the boon for volunteering is a boon to play Arushalae? Pretty nice.

I hope someone hasn't used theirs and is just waiting for a PFS build with Pun Pun levels of stupid.

Grand Lodge

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The Gen Con card boons (paraphrased)...

Reward 1, Herald of What Will Come: (one shot) The Herald of Iomedae gives you the power to recharge a card at the start of another player's turn to examine the top card of their location deck. Lasts for the duration of the scenario.

Reward 2, Fortune's Friend: You gain 3 die bumps (there are 3 check boxes to indicate use).

Reward 3, Luck of a Halfling: You gain 2 re-rolls (2 check boxes).

Reward 4, Riftwarden Response: When a Henchman is summoned, add 1d6 to checks against them. Also reduce all damage dealt by them by 1. (2 uses/check boxes)

Reward 5, Sarenrae's Benificence: (one use) Shuffle 1d4+1 cards from your discard pile into your deck.

GM Reward, Duty Is Its Own Reward: Unlock the ability to play Arueshalae in Season of the Righteous. Before the first time you play her, choose whether to play her as a starting character, or as a Tier 4 character in Adventure 4 and higher scenarios. If you play her as a starting character, you do not gain access to her Owner cards until Adventure 3 or higher. If you play her as Tier 4, choose 3 skill feats, power feats, and card feats, and choose a role and gain another power feat. Only one player may play Arueshalae in a session.
(Clarification: The Owner cards referred to on the Reward are the Loot cards. You still start with the Arueshalae's Gift cohort. However, this will probably require a FAQ/official response)

Edit: There may have been more rewards, but I think that is the complete set.

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I don't think anyone so far has mentioned the tablet app demo. The demo of the tablet version of PACG had two full playable scenarios to try out - Poison Pill with Valeros and Lem, and (I think) Approach to Thistletop with Lem, Ezren, Seelah, and Sajan. I had some trouble adjusting to the interface, but in general they seemed very fun.

I didn't play all the way through either scenario due to time constraints, but I was able to explore, fight, and close locations just fine. If anyone has specific questions I'll answer them if I can. As far as I can tell none of the rules we are used to had to be changed to accommodate the new format.


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Scribbling Rambler wrote:


GM Reward, Duty Is Its Own Reward: Unlock the ability to play Arueshalae in Season of the Righteous.

Out of curiosity, what class deck does she use? Rogue probably makes the most sense, though given her Charisma, the Bard deck would also probably be playable enough (with that shiny Ruby of Charisma and all).

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First World Bard wrote:
Scribbling Rambler wrote:


GM Reward, Duty Is Its Own Reward: Unlock the ability to play Arueshalae in Season of the Righteous.
Out of curiosity, what class deck does she use? Rogue probably makes the most sense, though given her Charisma, the Bard deck would also probably be playable enough (with that shiny Ruby of Charisma and all).

Sorry, I forgot to include that. Rogue Deck.


Thanks for all the info!


ryric wrote:

I don't think anyone so far has mentioned the tablet app demo. The demo of the tablet version of PACG had two full playable scenarios to try out - Poison Pill with Valeros and Lem, and (I think) Approach to Thistletop with Lem, Ezren, Seelah, and Sajan. I had some trouble adjusting to the interface, but in general they seemed very fun.

I didn't play all the way through either scenario due to time constraints, but I was able to explore, fight, and close locations just fine. If anyone has specific questions I'll answer them if I can. As far as I can tell none of the rules we are used to had to be changed to accommodate the new format.

I played it for a bit as well. Just took a minute to figure out the interface, I would imagine the final product will have a one time or toggle-able help system with little pointers to get you used to the interface.

Can't wait to buy it, I think the guy said could be weeks, could be a year, for release date. So at least that's narrowed down. :)

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hfm wrote:


Can't wait to buy it, I think the guy said could be weeks, could be a year, for release date. So at least that's narrowed down. :)

Yes, I believe the official release date is "soon".

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One conversation I had with the demo guy implied that the character add-on would be a separate purchase from the base game. No info on price point, release schedule or anything like that, just a note that it seems like it will be structured like the physical game in terms of discrete products.

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That's disappointing to hear. Now that I think about it, I don't know why I even remotely thought it might include the add on deck though, nothing I've seen has ever indicated it would.

Grand Lodge

Most of the screenshots released over the last year have included the Add-On characters like the Barbarian and Monk, so it was apparent those cards were present in some form.

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They were there, but the phrase used was something like "If you have the character add-on," or something like that.


It makes sense that it would be set up just like the physical card game with all the extra decks outside of the base set costing extra, Obsidian has to get paid somehow.


I'm a software developer and that's exactly how we work. They want the entry price to be low, but these extra cards and characters take time to code and test.

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