rp points question

[jonhl1986]

whats the average rp points usually given or allowed in games for races like are their games that allow the ogre or centaur race without a level change or do they increase the cl of your character ?

[kestral287]

This will vary wildly between GMs. That said, the majority of GMs are more likely to allow only printed races, instead of custom ones, and tend to place Aasimar as the upper limit there.

My GM is generous in a great many respects, but even he only gave us 17 points to play with. Personally, I would only allow something like the centaur or ogre if all players had access to things of similar power.

[jonhl1986]

ok thanks so prolly an average points of 10-18 so merfolk could be taken mostlikely atm im just bored and making up a 20th lvl pc thats a merfolk with perm enlarge person on it both maxed headband and belt for +6 to all stats. i just really love making characters hehe.

[Gavmania]

That's not usually done via rp's.

There is a ruling for Monsters as PCs, which is that they start out at a level equal to their CR rating (So Ogre and Centaur are CR3, so they would be 3rd level). After 2 more levels, the Monster gains an extra level; and every 3 levels after. This is done a number of times equal to half the CR, rounded down.

So The Ogre or Centaur would start as 3rd level, gain 2 class levels (to 5th), then gain a bonus level (6th) before the other pcs go up a level. This is because the advantages given from the Monstrous background are worth less the higher in level you go. In the case of the Ogre or Minotaur, they would only get 1 bonus level, then continue as normal.

Note this is entirely at the GM's discretion; Most would disallow it as it complicates the game unnecessarily, though some accept it. Usually, if you go this route, all the PCs have a Monstrous background.

[Quatar]

As a GM if someone wanted to play a custom race, I'd build it for them. I've been building a few races myself with the rules to know how broken they can be if a person can build a race specifically to support his build.

But more than 20 RP I'd never give, more like 15ish

[jonhl1986]

also as a gm would you guys allow full use of the money at level or only half just wonering and how much would a huge lance of holy and ghost touch cost ? not very good at this kinda math lol.

[Rub-Eta]

You mean the starting wealth? Spend it all. A +1 Holy Ghost Touch Lance costs as much as 32000gp (all magic items needs a flat +1 before you add any other special enchantment like Holy and Ghost touch). +1, Holy (costs like +2) and Ghost Touch (costs like a +1) means a cost of a +4 weapon, 32000gp.

[jonhl1986]

k thanks so far my merfolk rogue 19 titan fighter 1 is turning out sweet im making it a lancer hehe.