I really want to try out the whole martial discipline and maneuvers aspect of Path of War, but my GM and I would like to use them with every other martial focused class.
I know there are feats that give maneuvers, but would giving full Initiator progression to the full BAB pathfinder classes be too unbalancing?
Any suggestions on how to incorporate maneuvers with existing classes without losing feats is what I'm looking for.
No, it wouldn't IMO.
All of the Initiator classes have class features as varied and powerful as the Core martial classes in addition to their Maneuvers. So tacking them onto other classes shouldn't be an issue.
No, it wouldn't IMO.
All of the Initiator classes have class features as varied and powerful as the Core martial classes in addition to their Maneuvers. So tacking them onto other classes shouldn't be an issue.
That was my initial impression.
My only other concern is deciding which classes should get the free initiator boon.
Fighters, rogues, and monks obviously need it. But what about Inquisitors? They already have 6th level spells.
Should Inquisitors have the option to remove their spellcasting to be an initiator? If so, what about Paladins/Rangers and their fourth level casting?
I was just discussing this earlier, actually.
I'd give all non-casters full Maneuver progression, and 4th level casters 6/9 Maneuver progression (as the Warsoul, a Soulknife archetype). Any archetypes that trade casting (like Skirmisher for Ranger) instead get full progression.
6th level casters don't need them, they usually have some good spells and a ton of cool class features too. But yeah, giving them the option to trade 6 level spells for 9 level Maneuvers sounds like a fair trade.
Path of War Expanded will have archetypes for martial classes (for every Paizo class I believe) to use maneuvers. I found this archetype playtest document in the main discussion topic, maybe it'll be of use: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tbBIinA90VQW8eriM0TZTZCbHsSU6cdv7_44J8w 564s/edit
Awesome! That's pretty much what I was thinking. Glad it doesn't sound too crazy.
One thing though, should there be a default way to re-ready a maneuver?
Every PoW class has a method of regaining their maneuvers during combat.
Maybe if you become an initiator you get to choose from Warlord's Gambit, Stalker's ki thingy, and Warder's Defensive Focus? Not sure if that would be too much or if there should be a "general" regain method.
Path of War Expanded will have archetypes for martial classes (for every Paizo class I believe) to use maneuvers. I found this archetype playtest document in the main discussion topic, maybe it'll be of use: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tbBIinA90VQW8eriM0TZTZCbHsSU6cdv7_44J8w 564s/edit
That's really cool!
I'll have to send this to my GM. Looks like it takes care of the regaining maneuver issue as well.
I did this for my homebrew world actually, though a little different. Only up to 5th level maneuvers and they required a minute of meditation/practising kata/resting to recover expended ones as I didn't like them constantly refreshing during combat. Has worked pretty well so far.