Kingdom building rules: Ultimate Campaign or Kingmaker?


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Hi, everyone.
I'm playing Kingmaker and I was wondering which are the most complete / well developed / most balanced kingdom building rules. The adventure comes with its own set of rules, but I've heard the ones in UCamp are better. Any thoughts? In case it's relevant, I'm the only player in the campaign, plus a dm, obv


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Ultimate Campaign cleaned up the "first draft" rules from Kingmaker and fixed several of the issues (problems). The system in Ultimate Campaign is generally better designed.


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As Dragonchess Player said, the rules in Ultimate Campaign are better designed.

Think of Ultimate Campaign as Kingmaker 2.0.
Both rules are written by the same person.

If you want more, go to Legendary Games Ultimate Add-ons;

Ultimate Rulership
Ultimate Battle
Ultimate War
Ultimate Relationships

All still written by the same person.


Echoing the other two people in this thread. Ultimate Campaign is the way to go.


I'd go with Ultimaate Campaign, and if you can use 3rd party material the 'Ultimate' series of books from Legendary Games -- Ultimate Rulership, Ultimate Battle, and Ultimate War -- would be VERY useful to have. Not a requirement, but they really give some amazing options for kingdom building.


Well, I guess it's decided then. Thanks!

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