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So I thought I'd shamelessly plug a podcast that a friend and I made. It's essentially a review and analysis of all the classes, geared towards educating new players but with enough new twists to entertain and hopefully edify more seasoned Pathfinders.
The basic format is that we discuss the features of the class, go into archetypes, argue about viability a bit, bring out the current wisdom on the forums and then present our our own builds.
We aren't focusing on min maxing or theory crafting. If you want to unlock the meta, this podcast won't help with that. If you want some broad insights and fun ideas to impress and entertain your friends, you could do a lot worse.
We have the first three episodes up and the forth is coming soon. We hope to hear you.
We always called them "Archpeasants".
Sounds neat. I'll give it a listen.
Now I wanna change the name, sigh. :)
Cool I always like a good podcast
Hope we don't disapoint!
Thanks sir! I've been looking for another Pathfinder podcast to add to my playlist. Best wishes for a long podrun.
Thank you!
Just posted episode 4: The Wizard. Wherein we marvel at the godlike power at our fingertips and still manage to complain about all the paperwork we have to do to maintain it. It's a blast.
Just posted episode 5: The Cleric, wherein we gush over their utility and versatility throughout all levels of play. I really like the cleric.
Also: visions of Dark Souls references ahead. Praise the Sun!
The new episode is up; The Barbarian.
Wherein we talk for a (surprisingly short) bit about the simply awesome simple bruiser. We also talk about Berserk a bit, so that's fun.
It was barely even a podcast... more like a hunk of sound waves.
The new episode up: The Bard
Wherein we gush a good deal about one of the most mechanically interesting classes in the game using the power of rock and roll. The Bard is a class that rewards strategy and (gasp) role playing over optimization, so of course we love it. Also, I beat an (un)dead horse for the last time with the coolest take on animate dead yet.
The new episode is up: Alignments?
In this very special episode of Twentieth Level Commoners, we discuss something that destroys more parties than liches, succubi, or pit fiends combined; Paladins chilling out with rogues!
We have words on the nine alignments, who belongs where, and, most importantly, how to have fun and how not to be a dick about it. It's gonna be a lot of fun
The new episode up: The Paladin
Wherein we discuss the one class more controversial than the rogue, but for very different reasons. From a purely mechanical standpoint however, these guys kick ass for the lord in a big way. You won't wanna miss it.
The new episode up: The Druid
Wherein we gush about the most badass of hippies, go into some weird old school history, and I deny my instincts and don't make an organic necromancer. It's rad.
New episode up: The Ranger
Wherein we play as Aragorn, son of Arathorn... If he was a Hobgoblin. We also can't say enough nice things about gravity bow since it (probably) works on double barreled crossbows. Come for the Mer smack talk, stay for the falconer archetype abuse!
New episode up: The Monk.
Wherein Vincel get's really excited, we talk (more) smack about conventional forum wisdom, and dip our toes in the eighteen(!) archetypes the monk has to offer. It's better than a swift kick to the face.
Next episode up: The Sorcerer
Wherein we talk about the Baby's First Full Caster, aka the sexy wizard. Also, I still can't stop talking about Aboleth's Lung (it's great)! This episode'll make you gasp (because, seriously, Aboleth's Lung is a second level suffocate, I love it so much...).
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Next episode up: The Witch
Wherein we kick of the base classes... or is it core? That's kind of poorly named, isn't it?. It's the one one that's not the first one.
Anyway, we kick that off with the witch, a class that is absurdly, kind of problematically good at shutting foes down. How problematic? Keep a bucket of water handy and find out!
Next episode up: the Magus
Wherein we stab/cast with a really strong class who can do a little bit of everything and a whole lot of Disintegrate. Dump your STR and uncover the Riddle of Steel with us!(spoiler alert: the answer is elven curved blades)
Next episode up: The Oracle
Wherein we intuit the cleric variant with flavor text to rival the witch. Come for the for the brilliant life oracle, stay for the Conan the Barbarian references.
Contemplate this on the tree of woe... crucify him. Or just like and subscribe, whatevs.
Next episode up: The Tactics
Wherein we do a Very Special Episode on what you're actually supposed to be doing with those sweet, sweet character builds we've been showing you. We start with the basics; flanking, combat maneuvers, proper teamwork. Then we talk dungeon master theory for a bit, and go over our favorite campaign moments and why they worked(or just failed in a really fun way). Finally, we dissect a gaming session from both sides of the table. It's based on The Hoxton Breakout from Payday 2 and it's nuts.
Take a listen for yourself.
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Sounds interesting. I'll be sure to check it out!
Hope you enjoy!
Next episode up: The Cavalier/Samurai
Wherein we get as negative as we ever have and straight up put down the cavalier, then spend the rest of the show downright gushing over his better half, the samurai. We also talk about Takeda Shingen, Afro Samurai and Samurai Champloo, so that's fun.
Like cherry blossoms
most beautiful when they fall
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Next episode up: The Inquisitor
Wherein we have a good discussion about tactics and teamwork feats, Vincel makes a very interesting build with a rich backstory and then I talk about Dracula for awhile.
Good for more than just Monty Python references, the Inquisitor is an advanced but very rewarding class. You won't expect it.
Next episode up: The Gunslinger
Wherein we take a shot at the most consistent damage dealer in the game, and then marvel about how shooting people in the face consistently gets dull so fast with not much else to do. On the positive side, we find an archetype who specializes in shooting dudes in the gut and burning them with the muzzle flash - and that never gets old.
Take a listen, it's better than a rifle butt to the sinuses for 1 d6 damage!
Next episode up: the Alchemist
Wherein we ask you a simple question; do you like burning things? Explosions? While being arguably the best support in the game? Why wouldn't you?
The alchemist is seriously awesome, possibly the strongest base class without any op cheese finagling required; or you could just play the archetype that sacrifices everything fun in order to get disease resistance and hold your breath for con mod number of hours.
This episode's cooler than a 10 d6 freezing bomb.
Next episode up: The Summoner
Wherein we dive right into what is probably the most controversial class in the game, mostly because of one archetype. We argue that the whole class is op, but don't get your banhammers out just yet, hear us out.
It's morphin' time.
Next episode up: The Ninja
Wherein we send off the base classes with what is honestly just a rogue archetype, but one with a lot of controversy around it so that's cool. Come for the shuriken builds, stay for the German Expressionism jokes.
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When do you think you will get to the Warpriest?
When do you think you will get to the Warpriest?
Funny you should ask!
Next episode up: The Hybrid Classes
Wherein we cram ten (barely) separate classes into one episode because, frankly, they're not worth ten episodes. What are they worth? Find out!
I'll have to check out the ones I've written guides for, see if we sync up. Sounds like fun though, I'll definitely check this out.
Thanks, hope you enjoy!
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Listened to the Hybrid Classes episode. Pretty intense review of the 10 classes. I think the arcanist is better than you make it out to be. The arcanist archetype, School Savant, allows it to substitute for a wizard and the casting mechanic is better than either a wizard or sorcerer. I prefer blockbusters over god wizards so in my opinion the arcanist works better for it.
I have been trying to love the warpriest as an alternative to the paladin and like you found it kind of boring in comparison.
Saint Bernard
School Savant sounds pretty cool, we'll have to look into it. Also, I cannot not imagine a less necessary class than the Warpriest.
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School Savant sounds pretty cool, we'll have to look into it. Also, I cannot not imagine a less necessary class than the Warpriest.
Thanks for being willing to take another look at the Arcanist. I think the Warpriest is a case of missed opportunity. It would have made a great substitute for the Cleric in the PFCRB. Closer in concept to the AD&D Cleric.
Next episode up: The Occult classes
Wherein we discuss the occult. Not the dark and edgy occult your parents worry about when you roleplay, but psionics and what they do or don't do for you're game.
Have a listen, it's spooooky.
We'll definitely consider it, thanks!
Next episode up: The Kineticist
Wherein we say goodbye to this iteration (season?) of the series and end it on a Kamehameha with the one real breakout class of the Occult book. A class that finally goes full anime.
Have a listen, it's good for your power levels.
Next episode up: Movie Night
Wherein we talk about the three films I feel pretty much sum up D&D; Lord of the Rings, Conan the Barbarian and Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail. We also go off topic into anime, westerns, the nature of evil in Conan and LotR and the nature of storytelling. It's fantastic. Next up, we'll be doing a whole system, so stay tuned!
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I admit this is a pet peeve, but I kept twitching every time one of you mispronounced these words.
Eidolon is pronounced "īˈdōlən".
Ki is pronounced "chē".
Chakra is pronounced "chuhk-ruh".
You should really think about putting these up on youtube, although I'm mostly saying it because it's hard for me to listen to podcast on my system, but youtube works well for me.
Ask and receive. We are on the Youtubes
I admit this is a pet peeve, but I kept twitching every time one of you mispronounced these words.
Eidolon is pronounced "īˈdōlən".
Ki is pronounced "chē".
Chakra is pronounced "chuhk-ruh".
Yeah, the sad thing is that I sort of knew all that(especially eidolon as a lifelong Final Fantasy fan) but my mouth just sort of defaults into dumb tourist mode.
Apologies.
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You should really think about putting these up on youtube, although I'm mostly saying it because it's hard for me to listen to podcast on my system, but youtube works well for me.Ask and receive. We are on the Youtubes
Aces, did you plan on putting up any of your other discussions there?
Aces, did you plan on putting up any of your other discussions there?You should really think about putting these up on youtube, although I'm mostly saying it because it's hard for me to listen to podcast on my system, but youtube works well for me.Ask and receive. We are on the Youtubes
All of them when we can
Cool, if you could update the thread when you do, I'll be sure to check them out.
Episode one on youtube now
I've just started listening to your podcasts and it's intesting stuff (my opinions and impressions vary rather noticeably on some points).But I was wondering why, when you do your own builds, you only get 5K gold? CRB lists the wealth-by-level for 5th as 10.5K.
Good question, I'm surprised somebody only asked that now. I'm also kind of surprised we never just explained it. We always tended to play campaigns were we roughed it a bit and found 10.5k to be easy mode. Also, and I am speaking entirely for myself here, not sure what Vincel's thoughts on this are, it's my own little rebellion against the idea that you need a particular item loadout to be viable in combat. It's a bit far on the gamey side of things for my comfort (if I want to play a moba I'll play a moba) and I honestly don't think that it's true.
Not judging anybody who plays that way, but magic item catalogs detract more than they add for me.