The Wheel of Time debacle


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I've kind of lost track, how much time actually passes in the series? The main characters are still pretty young by the end, right?

About two and a half years pass. The books start in spring 998 NE (New Era) and end towards the end of 1000 NE.


Werthead wrote:

And it keeps getting weirder.

Red Eagle's ability to operate as a legal company was suspended in August 2014, allegedly for tax issues in California. No-one's found any evidence that this status has changed recently, meaning they cannot legally sue anyone because they effectively do not exist. I guess that also means they can't have made this production and that the film rights have reverted automatically to the Jordan Estate.

Could be this used as a reasonable excuse for Mrs Jordan in court that due to the company legal issues she was convinced that rights reverted to the Estate?


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Could be this used as a reasonable excuse for Mrs Jordan in court that due to the company legal issues she was convinced that rights reverted to the Estate?

I would assume so.

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Werthead wrote:
What is interesting is that Jordan was very much a feminist (or feminist ally) in his own eyes, but that was from the POV of a middle-aged guy raised in the American South in the 1950s. He was probably seen as a progressive liberal by his contemporaries, but by other standards he did see things through a more traditional lens. Charitably you can say he was trying to present a revisionist take on epic fantasy where women are equal - or even superior in some respects - in society and he occasionally got it right, occasionally got it wrong. Definitely the early books suffer from the juvenile, junior school view of the sexes in constant opposition.
Which would make a lot of sense if it had progressed, since in the early books the point of view characters were still at that age.

From my admittedly yet limited experience (I just finished book #5),it actually gets worse with time. In the first couple of books, the only characters partaking in the ridiculous boys vs. girls mentality are the main characters - a few teenaged villagers.

By the end of book 5, the same dynamic seems to involve quite literally everyone (excluding perhaps Moiraine, yet another reason that she is my favorite character): The Amyrlin Seat, the queen of Andor, seasoned soldiers, chiefs and kings - to a certain degree, even some of the Forsaken. It's annoying.


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Red Eagle de-escalate the situation.

Red Eagle are no longer suing Robert Jordan's widow, but discussions remain "ongoing" about the ownership of the film/TV rights.

My guess is that Red Eagle either 1) deliberately launched the lawsuit so they could withdraw it later on as a pre-emptive bargaining chip, or 2) realised they were on a hiding to nothing and quit whilst they were ahead.

At the moment I'm going to guess that the Jordan Estate technically get the rights back, but the Red Eagle company retains a nominal producer's credit. If the WHEEL OF TIME TV series does end up with Sony, that would at least make sense because Red Eagle set up the deal, even if it falls to the Estate to execute it.

So hopefully a final end to this mess is in sight, because WoT is in danger of missing the boat as other fantasy properties are picked up all over the shop.

One thing that is interesting: Universal may also be back interested since they missed out big time in the recent D&D legal shenanigans. If they want a slice of the fantasy pie, this is their best bet.


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I wonder if 'Braid tugging' will be part of any auditions.

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