
numero42 |
you're trying to target a specific spell effect, and not a creature in general... which means you roll dispel check of d20 + your caster level vs. the spell's DC (i.e. 10 + spell level + casting stat bonus of whoever cast the magic weapon spell... DC 12 if it came from an Oil of Magic Weapon)
ok but i want to know if i cast dispel magic without target a spell in particular on a warrior for exemple, with bless on himself and magic weapon cast on his weapon, i can dispel only dispel or i can dispel bless or magic weapon? to dispelling magic weapon i must target his weapon or i can target creature wield it?

Gauss |

Purple Dragon Knight, your dispel check is incorrect. It is 1d20+caster level vs a DC of 11+spell's caster level.
Targeted Dispel: One object, creature, or spell is the target of the dispel magic spell. You make one dispel check (1d20 + your caster level) and compare that to the spell with highest caster level (DC = 11 + the spell’s caster level). If successful, that spell ends. If not, compare the same result to the spell with the next highest caster level. Repeat this process until you have dispelled one spell affecting the target, or you have failed to dispel every spell.
numero42, you need to target the object.

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you have to target the spell specifically, as per the rules (you must *name* the spell)
As per PRD:
"You can also use a targeted dispel to specifically end one spell affecting the target or one spell affecting an area (such as a wall of fire). You must name the specific spell effect to be targeted in this way. If your caster level check is equal to or higher than the DC of that spell, it ends. No other spells or effects on the target are dispelled if your check is not high enough to end the targeted effect."
If you want to "turn off" someone's magic sword (i.e. not the magic weapon spell, but an ACTUAL magic sword), you do this:
"If the object that you target is a magic item, you make a dispel check against the item's caster level (DC = 11 + the item's caster level). If you succeed, all the item's magical properties are suppressed for 1d4 rounds, after which the item recovers its magical properties. A suppressed item becomes nonmagical for the duration of the effect. An interdimensional opening (such as a bag of holding) is temporarily closed. A magic item's physical properties are unchanged: A suppressed magic sword is still a sword (a masterwork sword, in fact). Artifacts and deities are unaffected by mortal magic such as this."
This is actually interesting, and probably a really SICK way to sunder someone's MEGA SWORD (1- party wizard turns off the sword; 2- fighter sunders the sword)
OUCH!!

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Purple Dragon Knight, your dispel check is incorrect. It is 1d20+caster level vs a DC of 11+spell's caster level.
That's for a targeted dispel on a creature or object, yeah, if you don't know what spells have been cast on the target. If you *know specifically* however, that the object in question is benefiting from a "Magic Weapon" spell, then use the method I quote above to target that spell specifically (much lower DC to dispel...)

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Gauss I'm warning you, this will be my last post on the issue. I came here to help this gentleman and will not waste anytime entertaining yet another ruleslawyery toxic sparring match with you.
Since you're here, you can help the gentleman from here on end. [hands the torch to Gauss, and exits the building]
As per PRD:
"You can also use a targeted dispel to specifically end one spell affecting the target or one spell affecting an area (such as a wall of fire). You must name the specific spell effect to be targeted in this way. If your caster level check is equal to or higher than the DC of that spell, it ends. No other spells or effects on the target are dispelled if your check is not high enough to end the targeted effect."

Gauss |

Yes, equal to or higher than the DC of that spell as set by Dispel Magic. Ie: a DC of 11+spell's caster level. It states the DC of spells earlier in Dispel Magic under "Targeted Dispel".
Targeted Dispel: One object, creature, or spell is the target of the dispel magic spell. You make one dispel check (1d20 + your caster level) and compare that to the spell with highest caster level (DC = 11 + the spell’s caster level). If successful, that spell ends. If not, compare the same result to the spell with the next highest caster level. Repeat this process until you have dispelled one spell affecting the target, or you have failed to dispel every spell.
For example, a 7th-level caster casts dispel magic, targeting a creature affected by stoneskin (caster level 12th) and fly (caster level 6th). The caster level check results in a 19. This check is not high enough to end the stoneskin (which would have required a 23 or higher), but it is high enough to end the fly (which only required a 17). Had the dispel check resulted in a 23 or higher, the stoneskin would have been dispelled, leaving the fly intact. Had the dispel check been a 16 or less, no spells would have been affected.
You can also use a targeted dispel to specifically end one spell affecting the target or one spell affecting an area (such as a wall of fire). You must name the specific spell effect to be targeted in this way. If your caster level check is equal to or higher than the DC of that spell, it ends. No other spells or effects on the target are dispelled if your check is not high enough to end the targeted effect.
As you can see, the section you quoted references Targeted Dispel and thus the spell's dispel DC provided in Targeted Dispel. Not the save DC.
As for your comment regarding "toxic sparring match", I am sorry you feel that way. I am generally polite on these boards and I cannot remember any discussion with you that I would characterize as "toxic". Perhaps you have taken things out of context or read more into my posts than was actually present?
As for "rules lawyery" this is the Rules Forum, by it's very nature it is where "rules lawyery" discussions take place. Outside of this forum other discussions take place.