Are there any souled undead?


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Hmm wrote:

I was thinking possibly the Khaibit. I am amused that none of the web sources I've looked at seem to agree about how many parts of the soul there were...

Khaibit wrote:
Khaibit - (a fan; an object which intercepts the light) - the "shadow"; Closely associated with the Ba and regarded as an integral portion of the human being. Like the Ka and Ba it partakes of funerary offerings; and is able to detach from the body, with the power of going wherever it might. References to the Khaibit are infrequent, and the meaning usually obscure. It may be that it was a redundant hold-over from an earlier magical conception of the physical shadow.
I like that its purpose is mysterious and that it can detach and reattach from the body when it wishes.

This sounds really cool and appropriate. So does the rabbit also contain Harmose's lost innocence, spirited away as the trauma occurred? It would explain the chosen form quite well.

Grand Lodge

Thanis Kartaleon wrote:
Hmm wrote:

I was thinking possibly the Khaibit. I am amused that none of the web sources I've looked at seem to agree about how many parts of the soul there were...

Khaibit wrote:
Khaibit - (a fan; an object which intercepts the light) - the "shadow"; Closely associated with the Ba and regarded as an integral portion of the human being. Like the Ka and Ba it partakes of funerary offerings; and is able to detach from the body, with the power of going wherever it might. References to the Khaibit are infrequent, and the meaning usually obscure. It may be that it was a redundant hold-over from an earlier magical conception of the physical shadow.
I like that its purpose is mysterious and that it can detach and reattach from the body when it wishes.
This sounds really cool and appropriate. So does the rabbit also contain Harmose's lost innocence, spirited away as the trauma occurred? It would explain the chosen form quite well.

That was what I was thinking.

The rabbit has gotten a surprising amount of gameplay so far. I cannot tell you how many times Harmose has used it when meeting people (especially women) as an icebreaker. "Sorry, but my rabbit is a shameless flirt," being one of the funnier pickup lines that I've used for him.

However, I've also had him just stroke the rabbit a few times when he was upset.

It is a really fitting familiar for this character...


Hmm wrote:

So... This question is to Dabbler and whomever else is reading. What parts of the seven part soul would a wight lack?

You're all awesome, sick and twisted people. Thank you for your assistance and ideas so far.

I think Thanis and others have adequately answered this.

Hmm wrote:

I was thinking possibly the Khaibit. I am amused that none of the web sources I've looked at seem to agree about how many parts of the soul there were...

Khaibit wrote:
Khaibit - (a fan; an object which intercepts the light) - the "shadow"; Closely associated with the Ba and regarded as an integral portion of the human being. Like the Ka and Ba it partakes of funerary offerings; and is able to detach from the body, with the power of going wherever it might. References to the Khaibit are infrequent, and the meaning usually obscure. It may be that it was a redundant hold-over from an earlier magical conception of the physical shadow.
I like that its purpose is mysterious and that it can detach and reattach from the body when it wishes.

The Egyptians had a spell to detach it after death so it didn't betray them in the afterlife. I keep thinking of the Star Trek: TNG episode, Skin of Evil, in that reference.

It sounds like you have an awesome concept thrashed out here. I wish you all the best playing this character!

Grand Lodge

Oh, thank you.

I'm playing Harmose in pbp Mummy's Mask game currently, and he's been awesome. Upbeat, relentlessly charming with the occasional spooky moment. Thank you all for helping me build up his backstory.

Now, to go off an integrate it into his sheet.


I've always viewed spiritual mechanics thusly:

The "soul" is the quintessential "you". When you say, "I exist", your soul is the "I". The "spirit" is more like a reflection, echo, or imprint your soul makes upon the fabric of existence, the aether. It isn't "you", but it remembers what you experienced and it is "imprinted" with your decision-making process. In essence, it is a ghost as depicted by Rowling in Harry Potter; not the person themselves but a remnant that acts like they would have. Or, alternatively, a metaphysical AI based on an actual human brain if that works better for you. Now, typically, raising of the dead in fantasy settings binds the former soul back to their body, but keeps it "disconnected" from the spirit. The soul "powers" the body so you kind of need it in order to get a zombie or other undead moving. But, from their perspective, it's the classic, "I'm trapped in my body" trope; the soul is there, aware and watching, but powerless to exert its own will over the body. This, btw, is what you get around by using "white necromancy", where you call back a soul to willingly reanimate their own body, fully fusing them and granting the soul itself control, (ie. raise a slain knight as a willing zombie so he can complete his mission and rest in peace) or, alternatively, using your own soul to power the undead, in which case damage to the undead produces "feedback" which damages you.


The curious can read Harmose's full back story by clicking on my avatar and checking the spoilers for more details on his undeath and on his familiar, Wenet.

Yes, I ripped off much of what you guys gave me. Thank you. It was sick, twisted and awesome.

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