Metamagic feats that enhance variables in spells with enchantment spells?


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I´m a big fan of enchantment spells and it always saddened me that some of the most funny and thematic spells just loose their viability after some levels due to the HD limit they can affect.
Lately i had the very interesting idea to apply some metamagic to some of those spells. Reason for that was the sacred geometry feat that makes it actually possible, or easier than before.

An example would be hypotism, what has a hd limit of 2d4.
You can now apply maximised making it 8 and then ad another +4 by empowering spell, makes for 12 hd.
Spell could be heightened for a higher DC.

Think that´s worth it and possible?
Other such nice ideas anyone?
I was looking to make daze or sleep more worthwhile, but it seems there is no way actually.


Well, there's the dazing metamagic for blast spells, and Mass Daze as a higher level spell, or Great slumber for sleep spells. But that's about it all. Plus, many interesting enchantment spells are spread between the Wiz and the Clr lists...

(I'm helping as much as I can -> real wizard fan here, but the kind of wizard who always took enchantment as a prohibited/opposed school)

And sacred geometry is... hmmm a good reason for an alliance between the DM and the others PCs to kill the Geometrist. (Time consuming, and somehow gamebreaking).


Empower + Maximize does not automatically take 2d4 to 12. You get the 8 from maximize then you roll 2d4 and add half of that.


To answer the question I dont think it is worth the effort. I would just ask the GM can I create higher level spells that do the same thing.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Ah you have to roll that? I thought the maximize counts as the rolls in that case.

Seems really not worth the effort then.
I lately had a very good experience playing a telepath psion from dreamscarred press psionics and wanted to mimic that somehow with magics, but seems it´s just impossible.
Sad thing.

Grand Lodge

Yeah, Maximize actually contains the following line:

Quote:
An empowered, maximized spell gains the separate benefits of each feat: the maximum result plus half the normally rolled result.

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