Divine sorcerer and initiative

[Flynn Greywalker]

I have a 5th level tiefling sorcerer playing in my campaign I GM. He has a scorpion familiar. He has a +15 to initiative due to being diviner focused and his familiar and feats. Is that possible? What is the maximum he can stack to get this?

[Azten]

Diviner focused? He might have mixed up sorcerer and wizard.

Familiar +4
Dexterity +1 to +5
Improved Initiative +4
Trait +2

That's 11-15 right there and possible at level 1.

[Brotato]

Bonus should be around 10+Dex right now. If he has a 20 in Dex, then yes, he could have a +15

Diviner bonus +2
Improved Init +4
Familiar +4
Trait +2
Dex Variable.

Edit: This for a Diviner Wizard, as previously mentioned. The Divination school specialization gives 1/2 Wizard level as an Initiative bonus. As to how bad it could get, the answer is very bad (A level 20 Diviner gets +10 to Init just from class abilities as well as treating all initiative rolls as a natural 20 and always acting in the surprise round even if not aware).

[Flynn Greywalker]

Thanks all. This helps me a ton

[Arch_Bishop]

I think biggest + to Initiative I've seen is + 26 at level 1.

[James Risner]

Arch_Bishop wrote:

I think biggest + to Initiative I've seen is + 26 at level 1.

Curious how. It sounds like it was a major investment.

[Azten]

Well, Ifrit have an alternative racial feature that gives a +4 initiative. That probably helped.

[Drejk]

Ask him to explain it to you with showing every bonus, its type and its source.

[Paladin of Baha-who?]

Feel free to post his build if you want us to nitpick it.