yellowdingo |
Lord Snow |
The tradition is both old and new. Turkeys, for either Christmas or Thanksgiving, have long been spared and sent to farms or zoos, but GHW Bush in 1989 is the first to "pardon" the actual birds in 1989.
I mean... how ,any turkeys are eaten in a single thanksgiving each year? it has to count in the millions.
Despite my flirtation with vegetarianism, I was never the martial, sound-the-battle-drums type about it. However, the president taking his time to "pardon" a single bird just points a giant, glaring neon sign to the million that are killed.
At first I thought the tradition is just flat out weird, but as the hours pass I think I start to find it horrible. If you are aware enough of your actions to take your time (your [i]president's[i] time) to spare the life of one, you must also be aware of the ramifications of killing the others...
thejeff |
Yeah, but at this point, though it's only ~25 years old, changing the tradition would be a huge political act generating all sorts of attacks and analysis. Yet another reason to call Obama unAmerican. Not really the kind of thing you want to spend political capital on.
Even if it's stupid, it's basically a harmless photo-op.
Wolfie, KC's #2 Buddy |
Vod Canockers wrote:The tradition is both old and new. Turkeys, for either Christmas or Thanksgiving, have long been spared and sent to farms or zoos, but GHW Bush in 1989 is the first to "pardon" the actual birds in 1989.I mean... how ,any turkeys are eaten in a single thanksgiving each year? it has to count in the millions.
Despite my flirtation with vegetarianism, I was never the martial, sound-the-battle-drums type about it. However, the president taking his time to "pardon" a single bird just points a giant, glaring neon sign to the million that are killed.
At first I thought the tradition is just flat out weird, but as the hours pass I think I start to find it horrible. If you are aware enough of your actions to take your time (your president's time) to spare the life of one, you must also be aware of the ramifications of killing the others...
Turkey's are just dumber cockroaches with feathers. Delicious, delicious cockroaches {drools}
Pillbug Toenibbler |
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Lord Snow wrote:Vod Canockers wrote:The tradition is both old and new. Turkeys, for either Christmas or Thanksgiving, have long been spared and sent to farms or zoos, but GHW Bush in 1989 is the first to "pardon" the actual birds in 1989.I mean... how ,any turkeys are eaten in a single thanksgiving each year? it has to count in the millions.
Despite my flirtation with vegetarianism, I was never the martial, sound-the-battle-drums type about it. However, the president taking his time to "pardon" a single bird just points a giant, glaring neon sign to the million that are killed.
At first I thought the tradition is just flat out weird, but as the hours pass I think I start to find it horrible. If you are aware enough of your actions to take your time (your president's time) to spare the life of one, you must also be aware of the ramifications of killing the others...
Turkey's are just dumber cockroaches with feathers. Delicious, delicious cockroaches {drools}
As an ethical murderhobo, I eat what I kill. {bastes Wolfy in clarified butter and white wine reduction, flips page on "The Joy of Cooking" by H. Lecter}
Ivan Rûski |
Vod Canockers wrote:The tradition is both old and new. Turkeys, for either Christmas or Thanksgiving, have long been spared and sent to farms or zoos, but GHW Bush in 1989 is the first to "pardon" the actual birds in 1989.I mean... how ,any turkeys are eaten in a single thanksgiving each year? it has to count in the millions.
Despite my flirtation with vegetarianism, I was never the martial, sound-the-battle-drums type about it. However, the president taking his time to "pardon" a single bird just points a giant, glaring neon sign to the million that are killed.
At first I thought the tradition is just flat out weird, but as the hours pass I think I start to find it horrible. If you are aware enough of your actions to take your time (your [i]president's[i] time) to spare the life of one, you must also be aware of the ramifications of killing the others...
Its no different than with beef/chicken/pork/etc. These animals are bred exactly for this purpose. If anything, turkeys have it easier than the others. Plenty of people only eat turkey on Thanksgiving. How many cows do you think are slaughtered every year for McDonald's alone?
BigDTBone |
Lord Snow wrote:Its no different than with beef/chicken/pork/etc. These animals are bred exactly for this purpose. If anything, turkeys have it easier than the others. Plenty of people only eat turkey on Thanksgiving. How many cows do you think are slaughtered every year for McDonald's alone?Vod Canockers wrote:The tradition is both old and new. Turkeys, for either Christmas or Thanksgiving, have long been spared and sent to farms or zoos, but GHW Bush in 1989 is the first to "pardon" the actual birds in 1989.I mean... how ,any turkeys are eaten in a single thanksgiving each year? it has to count in the millions.
Despite my flirtation with vegetarianism, I was never the martial, sound-the-battle-drums type about it. However, the president taking his time to "pardon" a single bird just points a giant, glaring neon sign to the million that are killed.
At first I thought the tradition is just flat out weird, but as the hours pass I think I start to find it horrible. If you are aware enough of your actions to take your time (your [i]president's[i] time) to spare the life of one, you must also be aware of the ramifications of killing the others...
From a humane treatment standpoint turkeys and chickens have it pretty bad. The only animals which are routinely treated worse than turkey's are pigs. Unless you specifically go about finding open farm pigs, it is 100% guaranteed that pork/bacon/ham you are eating was tortured extensively before and during slaughter.
Cows actually have some of the best living conditions and about the most humane slaughter circumstances. Not that they are particularly good, but they are far superior to birds and pigs.
Vod Canockers |
Ivan Rûski wrote:Lord Snow wrote:Its no different than with beef/chicken/pork/etc. These animals are bred exactly for this purpose. If anything, turkeys have it easier than the others. Plenty of people only eat turkey on Thanksgiving. How many cows do you think are slaughtered every year for McDonald's alone?Vod Canockers wrote:The tradition is both old and new. Turkeys, for either Christmas or Thanksgiving, have long been spared and sent to farms or zoos, but GHW Bush in 1989 is the first to "pardon" the actual birds in 1989.I mean... how ,any turkeys are eaten in a single thanksgiving each year? it has to count in the millions.
Despite my flirtation with vegetarianism, I was never the martial, sound-the-battle-drums type about it. However, the president taking his time to "pardon" a single bird just points a giant, glaring neon sign to the million that are killed.
At first I thought the tradition is just flat out weird, but as the hours pass I think I start to find it horrible. If you are aware enough of your actions to take your time (your [i]president's[i] time) to spare the life of one, you must also be aware of the ramifications of killing the others...
From a humane treatment standpoint turkeys and chickens have it pretty bad. The only animals which are routinely treated worse than turkey's are pigs. Unless you specifically go about finding open farm pigs, it is 100% guaranteed that pork/bacon/ham you are eating was tortured extensively before and during slaughter.
Cows actually have some of the best living conditions and about the most humane slaughter circumstances. Not that they are particularly good, but they are far superior to birds and pigs.
Actually the ducks and geese used to make foie gras have it the worst, because they are fed a diet that makes their liver huge and fatty.
Its no different than with beef/chicken/pork/etc. These animals are bred exactly for this purpose. If anything, turkeys have it easier than the others. Plenty of people only eat turkey on Thanksgiving. How many cows do you think are slaughtered every year for McDonald's alone?
One?
The turkeys that are spared, generally live only about a year or two, they were bred to grow big fast then die.
BigDTBone |
BigDTBone wrote:From a humane treatment standpoint turkeys and chickens have it pretty bad. The only animals which are routinely treated worse than turkey's are pigs. Unless you specifically go about finding open farm pigs, it is 100% guaranteed that pork/bacon/ham you are eating was tortured extensively before and during slaughter.
Cows actually have some of the best living conditions and about the most humane slaughter circumstances. Not that they are particularly good, but they are far superior to birds and pigs.
Actually the ducks and geese used to make foie gras have it the worst, because they are fed a diet that makes their liver huge and fatty.
No argument that ducks and geese have it really bad. They have feeding rods stuffed into their mouths several times a day to ensure they consume the insane amount of grain required to cause their livers to enlarge to 10x their normal size.
But pigs have it worse. When they aren't locked in a cage that is narrower than them preventing them from turning around, or even laying down all the way to the point that they literally go insane; or when they are injected with hormones to reset their reproductive systems so they can can be inseminated as quickly as possible; the people who work in those places are outright torturing them.
Spoilered - because, seriously, you don't want to read this on accident. In fact, you really don't want to read this at all.