Portable Holes and Rooms


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A discussion earlier on the nature of portable holes sparked a tangential question for me. Would it be legal to build one or more rooms from Ultimate Campaign in a portable hole assuming there was enough space? If you were the GM, would you allow it?


Yes I would allow it. I don't see anything that would prohibit you being able to build a room either.


I had a player build a wooden liner for his portable hole, complete with dividers, bins, and all sorts of organizers.

He stated that if he really needed something, he didn't want to waste time digging for it.

Another player kept his wizard's library in his, complete with a comfy reading chair and snacks.


A portable hole is actually fairly small. About the same size as a 5' square. So it isn't a room, more like a walk-in-closet.

Ultimate campaign does say you can make a room smaller than the size for free, so technically you can make a room in it, as a GM though I would impose a reasonableness test.


Dave Justus wrote:

A portable hole is actually fairly small. About the same size as a 5' square. So it isn't a room, more like a walk-in-closet.

Ultimate campaign does say you can make a room smaller than the size for free, so technically you can make a room in it, as a GM though I would impose a reasonableness test.

To be fair, it is 6' diameter and 10' deep. So you could make a pretty decent library with 10' tall bookshelves and a little swivel ladder to go around the curved shelves.

I imagine it would be fairly similar to most cubicles in office buildings nowadays. You could fit a desk, chair, and some shelving in there to accommodate studies, crafting, or general storage. Just remember to start with a ladder so you have a way to get yourself out.


Tarantula wrote:
Dave Justus wrote:

A portable hole is actually fairly small. About the same size as a 5' square. So it isn't a room, more like a walk-in-closet.

Ultimate campaign does say you can make a room smaller than the size for free, so technically you can make a room in it, as a GM though I would impose a reasonableness test.

To be fair, it is 6' diameter and 10' deep. So you could make a pretty decent library with 10' tall bookshelves and a little swivel ladder to go around the curved shelves.

I imagine it would be fairly similar to most cubicles in office buildings nowadays. You could fit a desk, chair, and some shelving in there to accommodate studies, crafting, or general storage. Just remember to start with a ladder so you have a way to get yourself out.

If you have shelved even a foot deep, you now have 4' diameter floor space. That is enough for a stool, but certainly not a comfy chair


Dave Justus wrote:
If you have shelved even a foot deep, you now have 4' diameter floor space. That is enough for a stool, but certainly not a comfy chair

Stool takes up about a square foot of space. Maybe a foot and a half if you want some room for your legs.

Here is an example of a "comfy chair". Its dimensions are: Overall : 37.00" H x 39.00" W x 38.00" D
That's 3'1" x 3'3" x 3'2" or it would fit just fine in a 4' space.


4' diameter. Not 4' square.


Dave Justus wrote:
4' diameter. Not 4' square.

I get what you mean, and you are correct. That chair would not fit with 4' circle. Evidence here.

However, if you did simply 9" shelves instead, gaining 6 inches on the circle the chair would fit like a glove. Evidence here


Actually the diagonal is the single longest dimension of the chair. Consulting the Pythagorean Theorem, gives us a diagonal of just over 54 inches, or 4.5 feet. The chair won't fit.

Even a slightly smaller chair that could be crammed in would not be usable as a chair and would pretty much fill up the entire floor space meaning you would have to clamber on it to get at your shelves.

A portable hole can hold a lot of beer, but it doesn't make a comfortable library.


Dave Justus wrote:

Actually the diagonal is the single longest dimension of the chair. Consulting the Pythagorean Theorem, gives us a diagonal of just over 54 inches, or 4.5 feet. The chair won't fit.

Even a slightly smaller chair that could be crammed in would not be usable as a chair and would pretty much fill up the entire floor space meaning you would have to clamber on it to get at your shelves.

A portable hole can hold a lot of beer, but it doesn't make a comfortable library.

I posted and then edited my post apparently while you were typing yours. See my current post for how to fix it.


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