Cleric of Urgathoa and atonement


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion

Liberty's Edge

Hi all!
Quick question... my character is a neutral cleric of Urgathoa. As part of a PFS scenario, our mission required us to cure a young man of a disease. My character pulled out a scroll of cure disease and cast it on him. One of my party members then pointed out that I might have to atone (something I hadn't even thought of at that point).

So, the question is, in the course of fulfilling a mission, would curing a disease be directly against Urgathoa's wishes? I would think that I could consider it in my own interest to finish the mission and get the reward, which I could then use to further the excesses and gluttony that she asks of me.
What do you guys think?

TL;DR: Would curing a disease require atonement from a cleric of Urgathoa?

Grand Lodge

I think you might need to atone, but I'm not sure about the PFS rules on being evil overriding.


Require? no. It could be roleplayed in character to seek it out, or consult/confess to another cleric of the religion if desired. You could also roleplay regret over having done so.

Liberty's Edge

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Yeah, what we decided was that it would have been just as easy for me to hand the scroll to another person who could cast it, and my Pathfinder-mind overrode my in-character mind when I said "I cast remove disease." In reality, my character would have said "My goddess would not permit me to do such a thing... but here, I have this scroll."

Luckily, the GM is not going to require atonement from me since it was a single act.


I wouldn't think it'd be a problem. Urgathoa is a pretty chill deity, and if curing a single person of a disease helps further your, her priest's, goals, so be it.

Zon-Kuthon is a deity of darkness, but I doubt he has a problem with his clerics casting light if it helps them go about their business.


If it was helping your mission/cover than I think it would be ok.

Shadow Lodge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8

Urgathoa giveth, and Urgathoa taketh away. Removing a disease isn't outside her portfolio. In fact, I bet there are people on Golarion who pray to Urgathoa when they get sick, begging the goddess to spare them from her terrible wrath. I can also see a priest of Urgathoa spreading a plague in order to make a fortune selling cures for the disease (in order to fund their gluttonous habits, natch).

The only question is, did you serve yourself in curing the person? If yes, you're in the clear.

Grand Lodge

Urgathoa priests can use healing spells, AFAIK. If it's only one case, I don't think the PCs would have any problem. But if he does it all the time, I suppose the goddess could upset.

Dark Archive

Balon wrote:

Yeah, what we decided was that it would have been just as easy for me to hand the scroll to another person who could cast it, and my Pathfinder-mind overrode my in-character mind when I said "I cast remove disease." In reality, my character would have said "My goddess would not permit me to do such a thing... but here, I have this scroll."

Luckily, the GM is not going to require atonement from me since it was a single act.

Not that it matters in PFS, but that kind of attitude from a cleric, aka deliberately encouraging someone else to do something against the tennants of their faith, would be as bad a violation as doing it yourself in any game I run. You don't get to call yourself good when you casually step aside and let your friends do evil.

Lantern Lodge

Inner Sea Gods wrote:
Priests who cast remove disease may draw diseases into themselves as they heal their targets; they become carriers without suffering ill effects. Contagion spells cast by Urgathoa’s priests always use the caster’s spell DC for the disease’s secondary saves.

There's always this tidbit (It's also in Gods and Magic). Why settle for just being the cure?

Liberty's Edge

Holy crap that's perfect! Is that blurb PFS-legal? Cuz him becoming a carrier would fit PERFECTLY with his character.

Lantern Lodge

I don't have my copy of Inner Sea Gos handy (to reference page numbers in the AR) but it's in the same section as variant spell lists, and I know those are legal for a handful of other dieties (I had thought it was every major god save Lamashtu...).

Dark Archive

The variant spell lists from Gods and Magic aren't legal for PFS

Lantern Lodge

Victor Zajic wrote:
The variant spell lists from Gods and Magic aren't legal for PFS

Ah, so you'd need Inner Sea Gods as your source. Gods and Magic no longer qualifies.

Additional Resources, Inner Sea Gods wrote:
Misc.: all material in chapter 1 is legal except pages 92-99;

And

Quote:
All variant spellcasting on pages 19-171 are legal except page 99;

It falls under at least one of those two, so I'd say it's far game (if you own Inner Sea Gods, of course).

Liberty's Edge

Yep, looks to be legal! Balon is SO going to be carrying around diseases now. :-D

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