Would a multiclassed wizard/magus need to have two entirely separate spellbooks, or would he be able to have one spellbook for both lists, with some spells only available to prepare using slots from one class or the other, based on what appears on the class's spell list?
I'm contemplating a magus build with a one-level dip in admixture evocation wizard so I can swap a lot of my attack spells to cold (I want to play a magus who left Irrisen because of prejudice against male spellcasters, so he left and joined the Pathfinder Society). Just not sure how I need to work things out for my spellbook.
The same question applies for any prepared spellcaster, really. I could see the same question for a multiclassed magus, wizard, arcanist, or even alchemist.
Is there any RAW to support separate tracking?
Is there any RAW to support separate tracking?
The only classes for which this is truly applicable would be the arcanist, the magus and the wizard. And frankly no, there is no need to separately track spells known, If you have a spellbook with within it a spell you can prepare, for any of your classes, then you don't need anything else. So if those three classes share a spell book, you'd have all that knowledge pilled together. It would otherwise completely mess up the way found or bought spell books would interact with multiclass characters.
Except for the part where the magus has spells that aren't on the arcanist/sorcerer/wizard list. Unless you take the time fully recreate the spells for the wizard's spell list, in which case there'd be no problem.
Except for the part where the magus has spells that aren't on the arcanist/sorcerer/wizard list. Unless you take the time fully recreate the spells for the wizard's spell list, in which case there'd be no problem.
that still wouldn't affect his known spells , he simply wouldn't be able to prepare them. so no, you still wouldn't need to separately track spells known.
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Fair enough. He wouldn't need to track them separately but he would still need to make sure he never prepared a magus only spell in a wizard spell slot.
well that would be against the rules :P there's no accounting for stupidity when it comes to unintentionally breaking the rules
Except for the part where the magus has spells that aren't on the arcanist/sorcerer/wizard list. Unless you take the time fully recreate the spells for the wizard's spell list, in which case there'd be no problem.
Learning and preparing are different. I agree they have to be tracked separately for the purpose of preparing daily spells.
True. If it were me though, I'd keep it separate. Copy compatable spells between both, but still keep separate sets of books. Just feels... Dirty, just mixing it all. Too messy for me.
True. If it were me though, I'd keep it separate. Copy compatable spells between both, but still keep separate sets of books. Just feels... Dirty, just mixing it all. Too messy for me.
Well I tend to keep multiple books anyway, at least 1 spare. Just not for your reasons, I do it against theft :P
True. If it were me though, I'd keep it separate. Copy compatable spells between both, but still keep separate sets of books. Just feels... Dirty, just mixing it all. Too messy for me.
It is actually easier to keep it in one book, and it cost more money in the game to have two spellbooks. The spellbook is really just a collection of spells. It is not a spellbook for either class. That fact that you are multiclassing, is going to be enough of a limiter on its own.
Thinking about it, yeah it would simpler because it's not like its titled wizard's fireball and magus' fireball. It's just fireball. Save room for more spells in your book, and you're able prepare it on both lists.
Aside from the size issues mentioned, you can keep your spells in the same book. And no, you don't need to have multiple copies of the same spell (remember a magus can use a wizard's spellbook with almost no issues). You do need to know which spells are exclusive to one class or the other, as you do have to track the spells prepared separately.