Can you create items with range of personal?

[Cuttler]

Our group has been debating about this. We know that the create potions section specifically indicates you cannot. But what about magic wands/staffs or wondrous items?

CRB indicates for wondrous items:
If spells are involved in the prerequisites for making the item, the creator must have prepared the spells to be cast (or must know the spells, in the case of a sorcerer or bard) but need not provide any material components or focuses the spells require. The act of working on the item triggers the prepared spells, making them unavailable for casting during each day of the item's creation. (That is, those spell slots are expended from the caster's currently prepared spells, just as if they had been cast.)

emphasis mine

Technically, when you cast a spells with personal range, you can only target yourself. Now if you want to put a true strike, or mirror image or other spells with personal range into a spell, it doesn't look like you cast the spell itself.

In the preparation process you "trigger" the spell (not cast it), and that spell is expended (no more available)

Is that correct?

So basically, if you want to cast a spell with personal range on another character, you need to create an item with the spells and then give the wondrous item to the character in question?

[Chess Pwn]

you create a wand, like a want of Mage armor and then the other player, like a monk, uses the wand and get's the Mage armor.

[Cuttler]

Wands and staff are not really an issue...it's more for wondrous items...actually.

For example, if a cleric or rogue or fighter, etc wants to have a contingency on him, he can't because contingency is a personal spell...

So it would appear that the only solution would be to create a charge item so that they could use it.

[Orfamay Quest]

Yes, it's possible. The boots of striding and springing are an example from the Core rulebook; they give the wearer a constant longstrider effect.

[Orfamay Quest]

Cuttler wrote:

For example, if a cleric or rogue or fighter, etc wants to have a contingency on him, he can't because contingency is a personal spell...

There are also scrolls and UMD.

[MrRetsej]

Bracers of Armor are another example of wonderous items that use a personal range spell. RAW its not a problem.

[Paladin of Baha-who?]

Actually, MrRetsej, the bracers of armor, while they require mage armor during their crafting, don't actually reproduce the effects of the spell on the wearer. Also, it's not a personal spell, it's a touch spell.

[Matthew Downie]

Just to clarify the wand issue: wands of personal spells are legal, but because they're personal spells, you can only use the wand on yourself.

There are already items that allow you to gain the benefits of personal spells - for example, Cloak of the Hedge Wizard allows a character with no magic to benefit from the Shield spell (which, unlike Mage Armor, is personal).

If you wanted to make a custom magic item that gave you the benefits of, say, Mirror Image, it's not illegal, but should probably (as the GM dictates) cost more than a similar item that gave you the benefit of a non-personal spell, since the intent is that these spells are restricted in their use.

[The Archive]

The only restriction with spells of personal range is with potions. You can't actually make potions of spells that are range personal.

I would imagine that spells used for item creation are used up "just as if they had been cast" to allow for the caster to make use of pearls of power on those used slots. Or to avoid some other silliness.