Except, Sam, you're talking to someone who likely rejects all of the geological, physical, and chemical evidence of an old earth, and who likely thinks dinosaurs and people lived together, despite the evidence to the contrary.
If you're going to make vague innuendos, I'd appreciate it if you'd rather have the courage to put the words directly into my mouth.
Also, don't forget to thump the Holy Bible while you're at it.
Oh, yeah, and some fanatical froth flying from the mouth would be a nice touch, too.
But let's not talk about the fact that radiocarbon dating is inaccurate (Science News Article, not a Christian one). Regardless of the margin of error (to the order of tens of thousands of years); it's inaccurate. Rather, let us fling condescending posts and call it a "civil religious discussion."
Nor should we compare scientists difficulty in dating the past (or that over the course of the past 200 years, scientists have progressively increased the "factual" age of the world and/or universe exponentially; as it's the only way one can account for just so much complexity occurring randomly) to God creating the sun, moon, and stars to mark the passage of the seasons (effectively creating Time on Day 4) as that has to make us wonder, "If Time is created on Day 4, just how long were Days One, Two and Three really?" Especially in light of 2 Peter 3:8 where we're told that to the Lord a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day.
Posts like Kirth's are the reason I stopped posting here months ago. It quickly became evident that many people here do not honestly wish to enter into civil discussion; they, like Kirth, want to run down Christians for believing in an "archaic mythology" that has no place in the modern world and we'd all be better off if God went the way of Zeus.
Oh, was his post really all that inflammatory, Mykull? No, not really. But I read the condescension for what it is. On the other hand, Jesus Christ did say we'd be persecuted for believing in Him. I suppose I should thank Kirth and those like him for proving my Lord correct.
I would be interested in hearing from those wanting to debate/discuss the points concerning Time. Actually, I'd be interested in hearing from those wanting to debate/discuss period.
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Except, Sam, you're talking to someone who likely rejects all of the geological, physical, and chemical evidence of an old earth, and who likely thinks dinosaurs and people lived together, despite the evidence to the contrary.If you're going to make vague innuendos, I'd appreciate it if you'd rather have the courage to put the words directly into my mouth.
Also, don't forget to thump the Holy Bible while you're at it.
Oh, yeah, and some fanatical froth flying from the mouth would be a nice touch, too.
But let's not talk about the fact that radiocarbon dating is inaccurate (Science News Article, not a Christian one). Regardless of the margin of error (to the order of tens of thousands of years); it's inaccurate. Rather, let us fling condescending posts and call it a "civil religious discussion."
Nor should we compare scientists difficulty in dating the past (or that over the course of the past 200 years, scientists have progressively increased the "factual" age of the world and/or universe exponentially; as it's the only way one can account for just so much complexity occurring randomly) to God creating the sun, moon, and stars to mark the passage of the seasons (effectively creating Time on Day 4) as that has to make us wonder, "If Time is created on Day 4, just how long were Days One, Two and Three really?" Especially in light of 2 Peter 3:8 where we're told that to the Lord a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day.
Posts like Kirth's are the reason I stopped posting here months ago. It quickly became evident that many people here do not honestly wish to enter into civil discussion; they, like Kirth, want to run down Christians for believing in an "archaic mythology" that has no place in the modern world and we'd all be better off if God went the way of Zeus.
Oh, was his post really all that inflammatory, Mykull? No, not really. But I read the...
And insects have four legs and pi is exactly 3 and bats are birds and rabbits chew the cud, at least acccording to the Bible. If you want to use the Bible as a science text book, which you apparently do, expect those of us who've actually studied science and found the Bible to be inaccurate as a science text to take issue with you. I'll let Kirth explain, for the thousandth time it seems, how geology and science works. I'll just throw in two quotes:
"I do not believe that the God who endowed us with intelligence and tge capacity to reason, intended us to forgo their use." Gallileo
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?" John Maynard Keynes
And if you think this is persecution, you have a very low bar. Getting told that what you believe conflicts with reaity is not persecution. When you get lynched, or kicked out of your job for being a Christian, or beaten up by Christian hating gay people, then we might start to get to persecution. Until then, stop whining about persecution.
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Yeah, we Christians know nothing of persecution.
In the USA? No, you don't. At least, not from personal experience and certainly not from posts on a message board that point out that using the Bible as a science text devalues both the Bible and science. Using a computer to make hte point that science is badwrong is just exrta irony on top.
1. If you're going to make vague innuendos, I'd appreciate it if you'd rather have the courage to put the words directly into my mouth.
2. Also, don't forget to thump the Holy Bible while you're at it.
3. But let's not talk about the fact that radiocarbon dating is inaccurate. Regardless of the margin of error (to the order of tens of thousands of years); it's inaccurate.
4. Rather, let us fling condescending posts and call it a "civil religious discussion."
1. In case I was wrong (which happens often), I figured I'd give you the benefit of the doubt, rather than make absolute statements.
2. Which of us does, or does not, preface posts with Scriptural quotes, as if that somehow makes the post that follows somehow unassailable?3. The margin of error is the whole thing. Percentagewise, it's better than most people's watches, with respect to the real time. 10,000 years error in dating, say, 3.8 billion-year-old rocks means that you're off by 0.00026%. On a 12-hour watch face, that's equivalent to being off by 11 seconds. If a person with that kind of accuracy on his watch says, "it's 1:38," he's pretty much spot-on, even if you claim that 1:38:12 instead of 1:38:23 isn't good enough -- in neither case is the actual time 11:59.
4. If person A relies on statements that contradict observations, and if B then points out the discrepancy and posits a possible explanation for it (which Person A can then either agree with or correct), this does not constitute condescension, but rather an opportunity for clarification -- unless Person A is desperately hoping to find some evidence of "persecution" (which I'd assumed was not the case here).
Yeah, we Christians know nothing of persecution.In the USA? No, you don't. At least, not from personal experience and certainly not from posts on a message board that point out that using the Bible as a science text devalues both the Bible and science. Using a computer to make hte point that science is badwrong is just exrta irony on top.
Nice blanket dismissive stmt. Might I suggest reading about the KKK and what they did (and the areas in which they were strongest - Yes, it could be considered christian on christain in many cases, depending on your definition of christian) against other religions as well as blacks and other 'races', or the persecution of Irish and Catholics in the 1800s? There are more, sad moments, in our young country's life. Persecution exists in many forms.
You woulda been better served limiting it to the discussion at hand and the media it is using.
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Yeah, we Christians know nothing of persecution.In the USA? No, you don't. At least, not from personal experience and certainly not from posts on a message board that point out that using the Bible as a science text devalues both the Bible and science. Using a computer to make hte point that science is badwrong is just exrta irony on top.Nice blanket dismissive stmt. Might I suggest reading about the KKK and what they did (and the areas in which they were strongest - Yes, it could be considered christian on christain in many cases, depending on your definition of christian) against other religions as well as blacks and other 'races', or the persecution of Irish and Catholics in the 1800s? There are more, sad moments, in our young country's life. Persecution exists in many forms.
You woulda been better served limiting it to the discussion at hand and the media it is using.
The KKK are persecuting Christians? Since when?
Persecution exists in America. Christianity is not, in America, a victim of persecution. I have never claimed that persecution doesn't exist in the US, just that it's not against Christians.
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The KKK are persecuting Christians? Since when?Persecution exists in America. Christianity is not, in America, a victim of persecution. I have never claimed that persecution doesn't exist in the US, just that it's not against Christians.
From Wikipedia, for your edification:
"Ku Klux Klan, often abbreviated KKK and informally known as The Klan, is the name of several past and present far right hate groups[2] in the United States whose avowed purpose is to protect the rights and further the interests of White Americans of Protestant faith by violence and intimidation. The first such organizations originated in the Southern states and eventually grew to national scope. They developed iconic white costumes consisting of robes, masks, and conical hats. The KKK has a record of using terrorism,[3][4] violence, and lynching to murder and oppress African Americans, Jews and other minorities and to intimidate and oppose Roman Catholics and labor unions."
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"In 1915, the second Klan was founded. It grew rapidly in a period of postwar social tensions, where industrialization in the North attracted numerous waves of immigrants from southern and eastern Europe and the Great Migration of Southern blacks and whites. The second KKK preached racism, anti-Catholicism, anti-Communism, nativism, and anti-Semitism. Some local groups took part in lynchings, attacks on private houses, and carried out other violent activities. The Klan committed most of its murders and acts of violence in the South, which had a tradition of lawlessness."
"Ku Klux Klan, often abbreviated KKK and informally known as The Klan, is the name of several past and present far right hate groups[2] in the United States whose avowed purpose is to protect the rights and further the interests of White Americans of Protestant faith by violence and intimidation."
Love that selective bolding.
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Except, Sam, you're talking to someone who likely rejects all of the geological, physical, and chemical evidence of an old earth, and who likely thinks dinosaurs and people lived together, despite the evidence to the contrary.If you're going to make vague innuendos, I'd appreciate it if you'd rather have the courage to put the words directly into my mouth.
Also, don't forget to thump the Holy Bible while you're at it.
Oh, yeah, and some fanatical froth flying from the mouth would be a nice touch, too.
But let's not talk about the fact that radiocarbon dating is inaccurate (Science News Article, not a Christian one). Regardless of the margin of error (to the order of tens of thousands of years); it's inaccurate. Rather, let us fling condescending posts and call it a "civil religious discussion."
Nor should we compare scientists difficulty in dating the past (or that over the course of the past 200 years, scientists have progressively increased the "factual" age of the world and/or universe exponentially; as it's the only way one can account for just so much complexity occurring randomly) to God creating the sun, moon, and stars to mark the passage of the seasons (effectively creating Time on Day 4) as that has to make us wonder, "If Time is created on Day 4, just how long were Days One, Two and Three really?" Especially in light of 2 Peter 3:8 where we're told that to the Lord a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day.
Posts like Kirth's are the reason I stopped posting here months ago. It quickly became evident that many people here do not honestly wish to enter into civil discussion; they, like Kirth, want to run down Christians for believing in an "archaic mythology" that has no place in the modern world and we'd all be better off if God went the way of Zeus.
Oh, was his post really all that inflammatory, Mykull? No, not really. But I read the...
Yes we all know that radiocarbon dating has an error margin of 1% and since we use potassium 40 for many fossils which has a half-life of 1.38 billion years the error margin is a large amount of years but not as much as you would like I'm afraid.
And to add to the above info, my a-hole grandfather was active in the KKK. My dad really set him off by marrying a Catholic from out-of-state.
Of course, he was just an angry a-hole that hated pretty much everyone. Sometimes even those 'like' himself. And, the organization he belonged to controlled the region as well. Oftentimes by force.
Persecution it was, by any definition.
"Ku Klux Klan, often abbreviated KKK and informally known as The Klan, is the name of several past and present far right hate groups[2] in the United States whose avowed purpose is to protect the rights and further the interests of White Americans of Protestant faith by violence and intimidation."Love that selective bolding.
Sad bit of American history. Or are you infering Christian-on-christian persecution doesn't count? If so, the whole Protestant-Catholic schism and aftermath in the UK? Sad history there as well. And much more institutionalized. I don't see the difference, except in scope.
Sad bit of American history. Or are you infering Christian-on-christian persecution doesn't count?
I agree that it's sad; no question of it. But when making a claim like "We Christians are sooooo persecuted," it loses a bit when the people doing the "persecuting" are themselves Christians.
Sad bit of American history. Or are you infering Christian-on-christian persecution doesn't count?I agree that it's sad; no question of it. But when making a claim like "We Christians are sooooo persecuted," it loses a bit when the people doing the "persecuting" are themselves Christians.
I think you are exaggerating the claim a bit, for whatever reason.
Another example, local for me. There are those that dismiss black-on-black crime statistics. I don't, nor do the victims.
Of course, you could draw up more extreme examples such as Christians living in Muslim countries, etc, etc. Or the Lao example given, but then you are arguing the degrees of persecution or locale rather than persecution itself.
I was rebutting the outright dismissal by another of the US-based persecution claim with historical and personal facts. Scientific, yes?
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Are christians persecuted? Honestly yes they're ridiculed for their beliefs, yelled at for showing up at your door to witness, told that their beliefs are outdated.... etc. That is mostly what you face in america. However there are far more persecuted groups currently in america, african americans, those in the GBLTQ community, those of the islamic faith, mexican immigrants, the list goes on and on. You are in an overwhelmingly christian nation. Your persecution is small in comparison to these other groups. Not to belittle your struggle because I do understand it is a struggle for equality of belief, but you also have to gain some perspective.
Are christians persecuted? Honestly yes they're ridiculed for their beliefs, yelled at for showing up at your door to witness, told that their beliefs are outdated.... etc. That is mostly what you face in america. However there are far more persecuted groups currently in america, african americans, those in the GBLTQ community, those of the islamic faith, mexican immigrants, the list goes on and on. You are in an overwhelmingly christian nation. Your persecution is small in comparison to these other groups. Not to belittle your struggle because I do understand it is a struggle for equality of belief, but you also have to gain some perspective.
I gave historical perspective, to rebut a single point. Thank God the repeats of it are more rare these days. And it's existence does not belittle in any way the persecution that exists in other forms today, nor my perspective about them.
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Spoilered my thoughts on Christianity as a persecuted minority, so that anyone who feels they might be offended can skip it.
83% of Americans identify as Christians. 13% as having no religion. 4% as some religion other than Christian.
That's the math. And yeah, I know, some people don't believe in math, and yet, somehow, manage to operate computers. Freaky.
Huh, those 'Godless heathens' appear to be vastly outnumbered (and much less well-armed, not coincidentally), and, oddly, the incidents of secular-on-religious violent acts of terror appear to be much lower than the numbers of religious-on-secular acts of terror (based on the 47 acts of terror committed on abortion clinics in the last 10 years).
~437 Representatives, ~100 Senators, a President, a Vice-President, and 12 Supreme Court Justices, who, among them, have *one* Moslem, and a couple of dozen Jews, but, otherwise, overwhelmingly identify as Christian, in greater percentages than the actual population they represent.
Oh look, more numbers!
Yeah, fear the terrible 'agenda' that all those heathens in government want to impose upon us! Oh, wait, they are almost to a man Christians? Huh. Well, they might not be *my* flavor of Christian, which makes them heathens anyway!
And you can't listen to the lying media without hearing about how Christians are under assault from all directions, a dying persecuted minority, afraid to speak out (except, apparently, on TV, where it seems like almost every politician has to mention his (or her) Christian faith at least a dozen times to have a chance in hell of getting elected), waiting breathlessly for 're-education camps' and 'death panels' and their children being brainwashed into being gay at school.
Some people desperately *want* to be afraid, to wrap themselves in the bloody shroud of the martyr and claim that they've faced down the lions of oppression, despite living in a literal land of plenty that *rewards them* for their faith. And, lucky them, there is an entire movement out there to *keep them afraid.* It profits hugely (because Mammon is it's god) by keeping them afraid, and sending them money for 'protection' from the dirty savages and the devil Obama and, as I have seen them referred to on Christian sites, his 'monkey-children.'
I consider myself a Christian (without a church, which, I guess, makes me like a government-in-exile), but there will always be a crazy segment of any population, Christians included, who want to think of themselves as under seige, to rationalize their own excesses. There are secular folk as well who talk the crazy talk, but none of them are on television before 700 million followers, celebrating the Haiti earthquake, or 9/11, or Hurricane Katrina, as examples of 'God's punishment' that we 'deserved' for marginalizing God and for allowing liberals, gays, feminists and environmentalists to live among us, and then using their followers money to support candidates for political office who agree with their hateful un-Christian views, in an attempt to impose their own immorality upon the rest of us.
Nobody is being fed to lions here. Nobody is being taken away and 're-educated' to not be Christian (and yet there are camps, run by Christians, where teenagers who defy their parents are taken away and 're-educated' to not be gay, or to 'remain pure' and not have sex before marriage, or to pray to a cardboard figure of George Bush). The only 'death panels' are run by the insurance agencies, when they reciss customers who get 'too expensive' to keep on the rolls and drop their coverage, leaving them to die.
When Christians come out in great numbers to pray for the man who murdered Dr. Tiller in his own church to beat a murder rap, it's not us Christians who have to fear being fed to the lions. (Granted, Dr. Tiller was a Christian, which means we do have something to fear. Other Christians!)
If more people who called themselves Christians respected and followed the teachings of Jesus, none of that crap would happen, and millionaire hate-mongers like Pat Robertson and Bill Donahue would be ranting crazy-eyed sour-milk-smelling guys with signs on streetcorners, that decent folk would quicken their pace to walk by while avoiding eye-contact, like Reverend Phelps.
As much as my own faith is important to me, I worry that blind faith makes people unwilling to accept facts, to even come to the crazy conclusion that *facts* represent attacks upon their very souls, if those facts happen to conflict with their beliefs.
Gregor Mendel didn't look up after causing selection in his first crop of peas and say, 'Forgive me God for messing with your perfect creation' and then promptly set himself on fire. He said, 'Huh, neat, I've discovered something new and wonderful about God's creation!' and went on to tinker some more.
I don't expect a single person who feels like they are a persecuted Christian, living in the end times, waiting for the death-camps, to be 'convinced' by the fact that 83% of America (and almost 95% of it's government) is Christian. They *need* to live in a constant state of anxiety and fear, 'defending themselves' against the 'impending attack,' to justify the awful things they think about everyone else, because if the rest of the world, Christian, Moslem, Jew, Buddhist, atheist, whatever *isn't* as horrible and out-to-get-them as they insist so strenuously, they might be forced to look into the mirror and see where the Devil really lives.
Persecutory imaginings are justification for pre-emptive acts of violence. Or, as Yoda would say, 'Fear leads to hate.'
The *fact* that the world is full of fearful people, ever kept on edge and poised and primed to commit acts of terrible violence 'to protect themselves' should probably scare me. But I'm pretty laid-back. Mostly I find it sad. All those people, who could be enjoying this world that was made for us, instead cowering from imaginary dragons, shoving money at the people who keep them scared (and, so often, the same people who ravage their local economies and keep them disadvantaged).
Spoilered my thoughts on Christianity as a persecuted minority, so that anyone who feels they might be offended can skip it.
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Not offended or surprised. But I don't believe the broadbrush stroke of minority was claimed here, though it is an accurate one in the locales used in the previous examples. ie. fewer Catholics in the southern states some years ago, or Christains in foreign countries. Both of which make the stats pointless. As for people using the claims of persecution to further their own power bases, I'm 100% in agreement with you, be it religious or political. And christians are 'supposed to pray for sinners', though I fail on that one quite often.
Your spoiler has merit, but in a broader context.
Yeah, we Christians know nothing of persecution.In the USA? No, you don't. At least, not from personal experience and certainly not from posts on a message board that point out that using the Bible as a science text devalues both the Bible and science. Using a computer to make hte point that science is badwrong is just exrta irony on top.
So, if it's happening overseas it doesn't count because it's unimportant? I'm not trying to be a strawman but I am curious about your reply.
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So, if it's happening overseas it doesn't count because it's unimportant? I'm not trying to be a strawman but I am curious about your reply.Yeah, we Christians know nothing of persecution.In the USA? No, you don't. At least, not from personal experience and certainly not from posts on a message board that point out that using the Bible as a science text devalues both the Bible and science. Using a computer to make hte point that science is badwrong is just exrta irony on top.
No, it's absolutely important. It shouldn't happen regardless of where it is or who's being persecuted. But my point was that Mykull was NOT being persecuted for his Chistian beliefs as he was claiming he was. Especially not by Kirth.
No, it's absolutely important. It shouldn't happen regardless of where it is or who's being persecuted. But my point was that Mykull was NOT being persecuted for his Chistian beliefs as he was claiming he was. Especially not by Kirth.So, if it's happening overseas it doesn't count because it's unimportant? I'm not trying to be a strawman but I am curious about your reply.Yeah, we Christians know nothing of persecution.In the USA? No, you don't. At least, not from personal experience and certainly not from posts on a message board that point out that using the Bible as a science text devalues both the Bible and science. Using a computer to make hte point that science is badwrong is just exrta irony on top.
OK, fair enough. Thanks for clarifying that. :)
I want to oppress all you guys. Get you barefoot, naked and in the kitchen. Why naked? So you can't smuggle away any of the food you cook for me. Stealing is wrong, and I'm hungry. Why barefoot? Well I placed upturned thumbtacks outside all the kitchen's exits, so anyone trying to skeedaddle before rustlin' me up some grub'll be wearing bed o' nails tap shoes right quick. I'll be able to track you by your clickety-clacks easy after that. There is no escape.
Sorry to not be civil in this discussion, but it's 12:52 PM here and I have yet to eat something.
No, it's absolutely important. It shouldn't happen regardless of where it is or who's being persecuted. But my point was that Mykull was NOT being persecuted for his Chistian beliefs as he was claiming he was. Especially not by Kirth.So, if it's happening overseas it doesn't count because it's unimportant? I'm not trying to be a strawman but I am curious about your reply.Yeah, we Christians know nothing of persecution.In the USA? No, you don't. At least, not from personal experience and certainly not from posts on a message board that point out that using the Bible as a science text devalues both the Bible and science. Using a computer to make hte point that science is badwrong is just exrta irony on top.
Am I safe applying that to your much broader follow up post was off as well? No hard feelings, as I'm not fully knowledgeable on other nations' histories.
I want to oppress all you guys. Get you barefoot, naked and in the kitchen. Why naked? So you can't smuggle away any of the food you cook for me. Stealing is wrong, and I'm hungry. Why barefoot? Well I placed upturned thumbtacks outside all the kitchen's exits, so anyone trying to skeedaddle before rustlin' me up some grub'll be wearing bed o' nails tap shoes right quick. I'll be able to track your clickety-clacks easy after that. There is no escape.
Sorry to not be civil in this discussion, but it's 12:52 PM here and I have yet to eat something.
LOL. I get grumpy when I'm hungry too. :)
Of course, if you see me nekkid you'll lose your appetite.
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Am I safe applying that to your much broader follow up post was off as well? No hard feelings, as I'm not fully knowledgeable on other nations' histories.No, it's absolutely important. It shouldn't happen regardless of where it is or who's being persecuted. But my point was that Mykull was NOT being persecuted for his Chistian beliefs as he was claiming he was. Especially not by Kirth.So, if it's happening overseas it doesn't count because it's unimportant? I'm not trying to be a strawman but I am curious about your reply.Yeah, we Christians know nothing of persecution.In the USA? No, you don't. At least, not from personal experience and certainly not from posts on a message board that point out that using the Bible as a science text devalues both the Bible and science. Using a computer to make hte point that science is badwrong is just exrta irony on top.
As in me not knowing the KKK persecuted Catholics? Nope, didn't know they were general opportunity ratbastards rather than just the racist anti-semitic douchebags I knew about.
As in me not knowing the KK persecuted Catholics? Nope, didn't know they were general opportunity ratbastards rather than just the racist anti-semitic douchebags I knew about.
Yep, they have a really bad history aginst anyone 'not like them'. Pick your poison, skin color, religion, etc. And my grandfather's treatment of his own wives and children proved him to be simply a hateful turd, beyond the KKK doctrine crap. Yep, know that history too well. Wish I didn't. Cheers.
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Yep, they have a really bad history aginst anyone 'not like them'. And my grandfather's treatment of his own wives and children proved him to be simply a hateful turd, beyond the KKK doctrine crap. Yep, know that history too well. Wish I didn't. Cheers.
As in me not knowing the KK persecuted Catholics? Nope, didn't know they were general opportunity ratbastards rather than just the racist anti-semitic douchebags I knew about.
In my family it was Grandaddy Jordan. Helluva nice guy, unless... :/
As in me not knowing the KK persecuted Catholics? Nope, didn't know they were general opportunity ratbastards rather than just the racist anti-semitic douchebags I knew about.
They're bad beyond just the racist stuff. Many were extreme evangelicals that would kill any who didn't meet their moral standards. They had a reputation for lynching whites for adultery, domestic abuse, or some other moral falling.
They're bad beyond just the racist stuff. Many were extreme evangelicals that would kill any who didn't meet their moral standards. They had a reputation for lynching whites for adultery, domestic abuse, or some other moral falling.
As in me not knowing the KK persecuted Catholics? Nope, didn't know they were general opportunity ratbastards rather than just the racist anti-semitic douchebags I knew about.
Except when it came to their own selves... Like any good douchebags. My grandfather used to quote the Bible as he beat the kids, and much, much worse. Need to bail on this as it gets me worked up.
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I would be interested in hearing from those wanting to debate/discuss the points concerning Time. Actually, I'd be interested in hearing from those wanting to debate/discuss period, provided they don't disagree with me, because that would make me feel persecuted.
Fixed that for you.
Sorry to not be civil in this discussion, but it's 12:52 PM here and I have yet to eat something.LOL. I get grumpy when I'm hungry too. :)
Of course, if you see me nekkid you'll lose your appetite.
When people see me naked, they usually call the cops. Apparently it's considered against the rules to scamper around on other people's property in the buff at night. Fascists.
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When people see me naked, they usually call the cops. Apparently it's considered against the rules to scamper around on other people's property in the buff at night. Fascists.
Sorry to not be civil in this discussion, but it's 12:52 PM here and I have yet to eat something.LOL. I get grumpy when I'm hungry too. :)
Of course, if you see me nekkid you'll lose your appetite.
You make me want to mark off a "designated nudist" area on my lawn.
Fixed that for you.I would be interested in hearing from those wanting to debate/discuss the points concerning Time. Actually, I'd be interested in hearing from those wanting to debate/discuss period, provided they don't disagree with me, because that would make me feel persecuted.
Mykull never implied that. He's just tired of the silly ridicule that gets thrown at him. I can understand his point, although I agree "persecution" is probably too strong of a word for it.
You make me want to mark off a "designated nudist" area on my lawn.When people see me naked, they usually call the cops. Apparently it's considered against the rules to scamper around on other people's property in the buff at night. Fascists.
Sorry to not be civil in this discussion, but it's 12:52 PM here and I have yet to eat something.LOL. I get grumpy when I'm hungry too. :)
Of course, if you see me nekkid you'll lose your appetite.
Now see, everyone! THAT'S open minded, forward thinking!
First off when you were naked on the other persons lawn were you looking in their windows casue that just might be the problem.
But I am the Lorax, and I speak for the trees. While starkers.
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Now see, everyone! THAT'S open minded, forward thinking!You make me want to mark off a "designated nudist" area on my lawn.When people see me naked, they usually call the cops. Apparently it's considered against the rules to scamper around on other people's property in the buff at night. Fascists.
Sorry to not be civil in this discussion, but it's 12:52 PM here and I have yet to eat something.LOL. I get grumpy when I'm hungry too. :)
Of course, if you see me nekkid you'll lose your appetite.
You guys can set up shop next to my "designated skater-kid" area.
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First off when you were naked on the other persons lawn were you looking in their windows casue that just might be the problem.It's not that he was naked, it's what he was doing to himself while naked. That poor chicken.... O_o
It was a chicken?! Wow, I need to get my eyeglass prescription checked.
You guys can set up shop next to my "designated skater-kid" area.Now see, everyone! THAT'S open minded, forward thinking!You make me want to mark off a "designated nudist" area on my lawn.When people see me naked, they usually call the cops. Apparently it's considered against the rules to scamper around on other people's property in the buff at night. Fascists.
Sorry to not be civil in this discussion, but it's 12:52 PM here and I have yet to eat something.LOL. I get grumpy when I'm hungry too. :)
Of course, if you see me nekkid you'll lose your appetite.
But I digress.
First off when you were naked on the other persons lawn were you looking in their windows casue that just might be the problem.It's not that he was naked, it's what he was doing to himself while naked. That poor chicken.... O_o
The only reason I'm a vegetarian is because I can't kill what I love.
And love... and love... and love...
::cues funk bass::
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You guys can set up shop next to my "designated skater-kid" area.Now see, everyone! THAT'S open minded, forward thinking!You make me want to mark off a "designated nudist" area on my lawn.When people see me naked, they usually call the cops. Apparently it's considered against the rules to scamper around on other people's property in the buff at night. Fascists.
Sorry to not be civil in this discussion, but it's 12:52 PM here and I have yet to eat something.LOL. I get grumpy when I'm hungry too. :)
Of course, if you see me nekkid you'll lose your appetite.
** spoiler omitted **
But I digress.
No crossing their line either, then.
Did we just nuke this thread?
The only reason I'm a vegetarian is because I can't kill what I love.
And love... and love... and love...
::cues funk bass::
Have you tried the poodle thread?
Did we just nuke this thread?
Killed it for ya!
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Try to get this thread back on track:
So, what does everyone think of Theoria?
Its an different view, one I find fascinating because its out of my experience thus far.
Have you tried the poodle thread?The only reason I'm a vegetarian is because I can't kill what I love.
And love... and love... and love...
::cues funk bass::
Not until the day poodles get feathers and beaks. I'm no sicko, after all.
*Comes in wearing a chicken suit* YAP! Er...I mean... BAAK!