Archetypes from Advanced class guide that are "Mandatory"


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Alexander Augunas wrote:
Deadkitten wrote:

Spells are a class ability that use a DC. Studied Target should affect their calculation

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The thing is, it says you use your inquisitor level as your effective slayer level for studied target. That means that inquisitor level = slayer level for the ability.

So if you go back to slayer, the ability says that you get a bonus on the saving throw DC of slayer class ability. Your inquisitor level is still your slayer level when determining the effects of your studied strike, so you add a bonus to your slayer class abilities based on your inquisitor level. But nowhere does this ability modify studied strike's bonuses to read that you apply your saving throw DC bonus to inquisitor class abilities.

Basically:

inquisitor level = slayer level for determining bonuses but other inquisitor abilities are unaffected, meaning they don't count as slayer abilities when determining the DC bonus.

And I you use that interpretation of how the Sanctified Slayer's Studied Combat works then they gain a class feature that they cannot even use.

If it only uses your Inquisitor level for Studied Target level dependant benefits, then you cannot even use Studied Target at all. Look at the first sentense of Studied target ,it says that a Slayer is the only one that can use it. If your interpretation is used then the ability does not even work for the Sanctified Slayer at all.


while certainly not a 'must-have', crossblooded rager is pretty freaking great. pair up arcane with any of destined (all-rounder)/abyssal(2H murderbuild)/undead (fear-stacking) and you're pretty much golden--though you're in for a hard choice for your 4th level bloodline power, since all of them are great for these.

and since it can pair with pretty much every other AT, well.

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Deadkitten wrote:
Alexander Augunas wrote:
Deadkitten wrote:

Spells are a class ability that use a DC. Studied Target should affect their calculation

.

The thing is, it says you use your inquisitor level as your effective slayer level for studied target. That means that inquisitor level = slayer level for the ability.

So if you go back to slayer, the ability says that you get a bonus on the saving throw DC of slayer class ability. Your inquisitor level is still your slayer level when determining the effects of your studied strike, so you add a bonus to your slayer class abilities based on your inquisitor level. But nowhere does this ability modify studied strike's bonuses to read that you apply your saving throw DC bonus to inquisitor class abilities.

Basically:

inquisitor level = slayer level for determining bonuses but other inquisitor abilities are unaffected, meaning they don't count as slayer abilities when determining the DC bonus.

And I you use that interpretation of how the Sanctified Slayer's Studied Combat works then they gain a class feature that they cannot even use.

If it only uses your Inquisitor level for Studied Target level dependant benefits, then you cannot even use Studied Target at all. Look at the first sentense of Studied target ,it says that a Slayer is the only one that can use it. If your interpretation is used then the ability does not even work for the Sanctified Slayer at all.

The way I see it, there are 2 possible interpretations.

1:Sanctified Slayer level=Slayer Level means that this determines the bonuses you get but does not count Sanctified Slayer class features as slayer class features. This would mean you would get the bonus to attack, damage, and the variety of skills, along with the bonus to any talents (because those are both Sanctified Slayer and Slayer class features), but not to spells or other Sanctified Slayer exclusive class features, because those aren't Slayer class features.

2:Sanctified Slayer level=Slayer level means that all Sanctified Slayer class features count as Slayer class features because they are gained from a level of a class that counts as a Slayer. This means that you get the attack, damage, skill, and DC buff to all class abilities. I prefer this one, not just because it is more powerful but because to me it makes more sense, but the rules allow both interpretations, and its probably safer to use the former more conservative one(so that if there ever is a ruling on this, you get a minor buff not a nerf).


Seems like a good candidate for the Rules Questions subforum. Until it's actually FAQ'd, I'd settle for "It's up to your GM."

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