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I have a GenCon Dm boon that unlocks a race I'm not really interested in or allows a rebuild of a character. I am thinking of rebuilding my level 8 human ninja. He's a typical two-weapon fighting sneak attack machine, but I want a more diversified character that can handle most things pfs throws at him. What would you guys do with around 36,000 gold and 32 fame/30 prestige to work with? Multi-classing or a completely different race/class are on the table.
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Okay i have two build in mind, but I may go back to my original with some minor tweaking. One is a half-orc rogue (scout/skulking slayer/underground chemist) with power attack, cleave, and surprise follow through. The other is A ninja (trapmaster)4/magus (kensai,bladebound) 4. Thoughts? Suggestions?
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Well if you value what the rogue has to offer you should stick with it.
Slayer seems really nice. As well as a alchemist. Both I feel are better classes then a rogue/ninja.
Im personally interested in a kitsune swashbuckler with UMD and vulpine pounce line. If you dont mind being lawful good then a 2 level dip into paladin for smite and saves is very nice. If your good you can use a wand of bestow grace and have really great saves.
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What I like to do is roll up a character and play it. Give it a test run and see what it looks like.
You can also play your old character and keep track of which would have been the better choice.
The slayer reminds me of what everyone wants out of a brute rogue or a 2WF rogue. high str power attack. Tacking on sneak attack damage is just bonus cake melee wise.
It also doesn't suffer from notflankingIamuseless syndrome. It can stand on a frontlines and not need someone to be flanking.
What I like to do is roll up a character and play it. Give it a test run and see what it looks like.
You can also play your old character and keep track of which would have been the better choice.
The slayer reminds me of what everyone wants out of a brute rogue or a 2WF rogue. high str power attack. Tacking on sneak attack damage is just bonus cake melee wise.
It also doesn't suffer from notflankingIamuseless syndrome. It can stand on a frontlines and not need someone to be flanking.
After struggling through most of GenCon with a two-weapon fighter, the Slayer class is a much better way to get the two-weapon thing going and also has the huge benefit of *skills* which the fighter sorely lacks. I had my doubts as I was looking ahead but in the last module I played at the con (after the rebuild) I was a *lot* more effective.
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What I like to do is roll up a character and play it. Give it a test run and see what it looks like.
You can also play your old character and keep track of which would have been the better choice.
The slayer reminds me of what everyone wants out of a brute rogue or a 2WF rogue. high str power attack. Tacking on sneak attack damage is just bonus cake melee wise.
It also doesn't suffer from notflankingIamuseless syndrome. It can stand on a frontlines and not need someone to be flanking.
I can't "legally" do that in this instance. It is a pfs character. Once I play it as a new build, it is set in stone, and you have to pay a lot of gold and prestige to retrain things. That is why I was looking for advice.
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After struggling through most of GenCon with a two-weapon fighter, the Slayer class is a much better way to get the two-weapon thing going and also has the huge benefit of *skills* which the fighter sorely lacks. I had my doubts as I was looking ahead but in the last module I played at the con (after the rebuild) I was a *lot* more effective.What I like to do is roll up a character and play it. Give it a test run and see what it looks like.
You can also play your old character and keep track of which would have been the better choice.
The slayer reminds me of what everyone wants out of a brute rogue or a 2WF rogue. high str power attack. Tacking on sneak attack damage is just bonus cake melee wise.
It also doesn't suffer from notflankingIamuseless syndrome. It can stand on a frontlines and not need someone to be flanking.
It seems you could do the same thing with a garden variety two-weapon ranger.
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Well you said you had the rework. What I said is legal. You can play test for fun anytime it just wont be a pfs scenario.
When you play a scenario ask yourself which of your character designs would be superior. Then after you collected your own data then apply the rework to it. You can collect data. You just can't play 2 characters in a session at a time. It does not mean you can not theory craft or do mental test. Just keep a score pad and each problem you come to mark which one is most effective. You can even do this while you DM. Same while doing combat. Figure out which one is superior by mentally running the numbers. Its basically the method people use designing the most powerful level X builds.
Lastly a vanilla DWing ranger doesn't get sneak attack added to his damage without cross cladding and taking the BAB hit.
It seems you could do the same thing with a garden variety two-weapon ranger.
I did look at standard ranger, then the variations in the various books that are available, and the only one that hit the points of stealth, skill point, reduced requirement on feats, and potential for growth along a damage-path versus an indirect-utility path. This took a couple of days to work out, it wasn't a snap shot action.