Anyway, I couldn't find much about the awesomely-named Zulu Gaddafi,You know, back in the good old days, guys had to be forced to bear this kind of name.
Shameless self-promotion and nostalgia: Threads of yore!
You did the exact same nitpicking claiming that sometimes stores don't report thefts.
Absolutely not. You advocated the lack of a report of theft as evidence that there was no theft.
I'm willing to bet $100 that there's a camera pointed at that register. Seriously.What you believe is poor evidence for what you believe.
Of course, the video is in the possession of the police. If the video shows Mr. Brown not giving money, it would actually strengthen their claim that he robbed the store. On the other hand, if it shows money changing hands it would be in their interest to not show the video.You're alleging that a video exists of a camera you allege exists and that allegation is enough to say that everyone that disagrees with you is wrong...
No. No one can trust your judgement at all if you're going to do things THAT badly.
Bringing up Mr. Browns "thuggish" behavior is purely an attempt to paint him as some sort of 'criminal element' who deserved to be shot and therefore justify his shooting.Two things,
As false as it seems to be, shooting a guy i thought had just robbed a store works a lot better than "I shot someone fow not respecting my authoritai"
Also, shooting someone that had just robbed a store is, in most peoples heads, the same thing.
To imply that Brown deserved to be shot for having stolen $5 of cigars stinks of racism.Which I'm very much not doing. But if he's on video stealing 5 dollars then arguing that he isn't plays into the argument that he deserved to be shot for it. If someone has a bad argument with a premise based in reality their argument is going to sound better than someone with a good argument based on the denial of reality.
You still didn't explain why he stole some cigars, but put other cigars back on the counter.
I'm really curious what that explanation is.
Also, why do you feel the need to justify the portrait of Mr. Brown as some sort of criminal thug? What is the purpose of that portrayal of him in this story?
Governor Activates Missouri National Guard
NYTimes.com:
"Anticipating protests after the grand jury’s decision in the death of Michael Brown, Gov. Jay Nixon of Missouri activated the National Guard on Monday.
The governor said the National Guard will play a limited role as it did during protests in August, providing security at command posts, fire stations and other locations. ..."
http://governor.mo.gov/news/executive-orders/executive-order-14-14
Verdict tomorrow?
It's interesting, because the same people that say we shouldn't treat Darren Wilson as a murderer because it isn't proven in court (despite there being an overwhelming amount of evidence of him being a murderer, even though he'll get freed b/c corruption), are treating Mike Brown as if he's a robber or at least very likely is, despite the evidence of it being incredibly weak and him certainly not being convicted for it.
Oh, also, note that at least one of the leaked KKK members are a cop. Oh why am I not surprised.
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Oh, also, note that at least one of the leaked KKK members are a cop. Oh why am I not surprised.
This is a hard one to not respond to, but I think I'm failing a save check.
I SERIOUSLY question why anyone who is part of the KKK would be allowed to be a policeman. I would say their judgment in fairness and equality is automatically questionable.
I don't think they could be trusted to leave their feelings behind and make impartial decisions.
I would seriously be worried if I was in the area where this member was patrolling.
I would hope that it is ONLY one member of the St Louis police, and not something that is endemic to the police force there and in Ferguson.
As for the main situation, I still don't know enough of what happened to say if the police are justified, innocent or not, or if Brown was innocent or not currently.
They simply haven't released enough information for me to determine anything.
Oh, also, note that at least one of the leaked KKK members are a cop. Oh why am I not surprised.This is a hard one to not respond to, but I think I'm failing a save check.
I SERIOUSLY question why anyone who is part of the KKK would be allowed to be a policeman. I would say their judgment in fairness and equality is automatically questionable.
I don't think they could be trusted to leave their feelings behind and make impartial decisions.
I would seriously be worried if I was in the area where this member was patrolling.
I would hope that it is ONLY one member of the St Louis police, and not something that is endemic to the police force there and in Ferguson.
As for the main situation, I still don't know enough of what happened to say if the police are justified, innocent or not, or if Brown was innocent or not currently.
They simply haven't released enough information for me to determine anything.
Often it isn't known that they are a member of that organization. Sometimes it is know as there are other existing members already in place in the department. I've run across that in a number of areas I've lived; it's often surprising to find out who is in what organization. Then again, not everyone is out with their affiliations, much like their likes, dislikes, kinks, and so on.
Shameless self-promotion and nostalgia: Threads of yore!Anyway, I couldn't find much about the awesomely-named Zulu Gaddafi,You know, back in the good old days, guys had to be forced to bear this kind of name.
Hey, I didn't actually know the Southerners copied that too, thanks. I guess I should have figured given all the other ways in which the Southern slave system reflects the classical ones.
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Saw a cool article on Facebook about the press ignoring the Huey P. Newton Gun Club, but, alas, now I can't find it.
Found the following being passed about, though:
HuffPo: 10 Illegal Police Actions to Watch for in Ferguson
Show Me 15: Ferguson Fast Food Worker: "We Are Protesting for What Is Right!"
We Need a Revolution!
Vive le Galt!!!
Which reminded me of a Klan leader of yore, although his victim was older than I recalled.
And while I'm at it: FBI informant and fascist murderer Frazier Glenn Miller, Jr.
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Which reminded me of a Klan leader of yore, although his victim was older than I recalled.
It's nice to be white in this country.
That guy kidnapped a woman, raped her, bit her so many times she contracted a staph infection that killed her. The medical examiner said she had so many bite wounds that she had been “chewed by a cannibal.”
25 years later he gets parole.
He then skips out on his parole several months later and is put back in prison.
6 years later he gets parole AGAIN.
they don't, as far as I know, commit terrorist acts in pursuit of their goals. Which was essentially the Klan's reason for being.
I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that basic rule of law would dictate that you can't just say, "Yeah, all those guys are totally terrorists" because of stuff specific members did in the past that lies beyond the statute of limitations. You'd need a current sting operation with evidence the group, as an organization, is planning specific acts of terrorism or is providing material support for same. If you can do that, then, yeah, they're a terrorist organization. Until then, you can't just declare them one just because they're bigoted, odious curs who brag about wanting to commit violent acts.
they don't, as far as I know, commit terrorist acts in pursuit of their goals. Which was essentially the Klan's reason for being.I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that basic rule of law would dictate that you can't just say, "Yeah, all those guys are totally terrorists" because of stuff specific members did in the past that lies beyond the statute of limitations. You'd need a current sting operation with evidence the group, as an organization, is planning specific acts of terrorism or is providing material support for same. If you can do that, then, yeah, they're a terrorist organization. Until then, you can't just declare them one just because they're bigoted, odious curs who brag about wanting to commit violent acts.
no statute of limitations on murder. Hence the hoods and secrecy.
no statute of limitations on murder. Hence the hoods and secrecy.
I think a number of states do have a statute of limitations for "conspiracy to commit murder," though, which is what you'd need to get the whole organization tagged. Not sure if MO is one of them.
And really, doesn't "Come to Ferguson to administer lethal vigilante justice to black folks" count?
Not unless a specific target/date/event is being planned, then no, it doesn't. What makes a "rule of law" is that the rules are (supposedly) the same for everyone.
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More communist propaganda:
Al-Jazeera: The labor movement helps Ferguson heal
Which is great, but I wish they'd organize workers defense guards to Smash the Klan! or, maybe, a general strike.
(If they don't give us our shiznit/We're gonna shut this shiznit down! (:35))
In These Times: Whether Darren Wilson Is Indicted or Not, the Entire System Is Guilty
And, as a sidenote, a little piece from the same source about NOI activists in Ferguson: Ferguson’s ISIS Allies?