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To The Great Western Kingdoms! [Or the Great Western Kingdom if we merge into one nation when nations are finally allowed]

Please make sure to stop by this Wednesday to Kabal's site for our Meet and Greet on Mumble. http://kabal.enjin.com/

It starts 8:30 PM Eastern.

The plan includes convincing a few non-PFO folks to come join PFO. And if you know a few yourselves, have them come by too. And of course, after we have convinced them how wonderful PFO is and how much more awesome it will be later and that they should join PFO, we will then convince them to join Kabal.

If folks from the nearby settlements come by, we might talk about who will provide what kinds of training so we don't overlap each other too much. Possible trade agreements might be discussed. Non-aggression pacts? Alliances? [which will probably be done privately while the leaders work out the details, but a simple - "Let's Talk" could be mentioned at the Meet and Greet.

Possible Tower Allocation might be discussed. [To my mind, anything east of Ozem's Vigil and south of Callambea that nobody is sitting on is open to us all. And depending on who is sitting on it, we might discuss taking it away from them.]

And pay homage to the Great Sun King! Sunnfire the First!

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Now you HAVE to pick the right name for your city. You cannot deny PFO the Great Treaty of Sassy Pants

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You're finally in touch with the Gauntlet and the Guardians? Congratulations!

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Thank you for the invite, Bunibuni. I'll pass the info along to the other Gauntleteers who may not be keeping up on current events. I won't get home tomorrow until about 9 (Eastern), but will log in as soon as I get through the door. Looking forward to it!


I've passed along the message to Athansor and Toombstone over here at Talonguard (hopefully). I plan to be in attendance even if they can't make it.

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Well, the Gauntlet anyways. Don't think anyone heard from the Guardians.

They may find themselves a part of the Great Kingdoms, whether they like it or not.

Talks will go on for at least two hours, so when you can get on, that's fine. The Sun King apparently doesn't sleep so you can probably talk to him for hours and hours and hours. :-)

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This is a smart move. It should make a hearty power block and an interesting map.

Congratulations to all involved!

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We will see if we can pull it off but it would be nice. :-)

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Do we need a guest membership or is my Tavernhold membership sufficient?

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<kabal> Bunibuni wrote:
We will see if we can pull it off but it would be nice. :-)

Ohhhh! That's a horse of a different color. Good luck :)

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I won't be able to attend, unfortunately. I just moved to a new state today, I'll be living in a hotel for a while, starting a new job...suffice it to say, I'm a bit busy right now. I'll hopefully catch the next one though!

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Well, anyone can show up. Even if you are not a part of the Great Kingdoms of the West. :-)

Which state did you move to?

Yeah, no official alliances here but we have hopes and dreams of one.

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How do we access the mumble server on your website. I have never used it before, and do not see a link or option for it.

Thank you

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Great Kingdoms of the West indeed. Of the Northwest, perhaps. In the Southwest we have Great Kingdoms of our own, like... *looks at all the tiny settlements surrounding Sunholm* uh. nevermind.

:D

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Dream Seeker Baldo wrote:

How do we access the mumble server on your website. I have never used it before, and do not see a link or option for it.

Thank you

If you've downloaded mumble just click on the Kabal name under Online Users and it will link you in.

ast3.voice.enjin.com:60153 is the server

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Kadere wrote:

Great Kingdoms of the West indeed. Of the Northwest, perhaps. In the Southwest we have Great Kingdoms of our own, like... *looks at all the tiny settlements surrounding Sunholm* uh. nevermind.

:D

Thought about NW but once the bigger map comes into play, it will be the West. You SW folks can join the Great Kingdoms too. After all, you got food to trade. We got rocks. :-)

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<kabal> Bunibuni wrote:


If you've downloaded mumble just click on the Kabal name under Online Users and it will link you in.

ast3.voice.enjin.com:60153 is the server

Close. there's an "E" missing at the beginning of that: (linkified)

East3.voice.enjin.com:60153

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Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:
<kabal> Bunibuni wrote:


If you've downloaded mumble just click on the Kabal name under Online Users and it will link you in.

ast3.voice.enjin.com:60153 is the server

Close. there's an "E" missing at the beginning of that: (linkified)

East3.voice.enjin.com:60153

Thanks. Was rushing it. Still waiting to see how Sunnfire is going to take the news that he is now the Great Sun King of Kabal! :-)

I may lose my Jester's job over it.

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8:30pm EST is 2:30am here in Germany and 10:30am in Sydney. On a weekday... Oh well, I'm online now, so I might as well be tomorrow :-). Who needs sleep, anyway?! :-)
I'm looking forward to meeting you all on mumble (assuming I get my headset to work until then)!

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<kabal> Bunibuni wrote:

Still waiting to see how Sunnfire is going to take the news that he is now the Great Sun King of Kabal! :-)

I may lose my Jester's job over it.

Probably better than if you'd named him the mediocre king of Kabal.

Either way, something tells me it will be with panache.


El Rey De Los Pantalones Sassy.

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Very nice indeed. If I am able to get home in time from work, I will definitely be there.

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Any other settlement groups outside of those named in the header are welcome. Especially the others nearby of some kind of good alignment, on the other side of the tracks! er ... road!

Forgeholm and Blackfeather Keep are also invited. I'm just not sure with travel times if you would find it of some advantage to be a part of the Great Western Kingdoms. But then again, the main roads are close to you both. Though I'm pretty sure all of us are going to need the metals you gather. Somehow, I don't think Golgotha will be trading with us. :-)

Sunholm and Hammerfist Clan would also be very welcome to stop by and chat.

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<kabal> Bunibuni wrote:
Somehow, I don't think Golgotha will be trading with us. :-)

Why not? There's no particular reason for us to be enemies or have a trade embargo that I'm aware of.

Golgotha's gameplan is a little more nuanced than just lurking about on our clifftop looking ominous. We're absolutely up for trade to mutual benefit.

Surely you don't imagine that the Cheliax economy runs in isolation without importing or exporting any sort of goods, nor that the various orders of Hellknights all grow all of their own food. It's no different with us.

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Guurzak wrote:
Golgotha's gameplan is a little more nuanced than just lurking about on our clifftop looking ominous.

Rats! It looks like I lost the pool....

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(Psssst... Put 50 gold on "naked orc sack races" and I'll split the pot with you.)

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BTW, an alliance may be a better starting point for conversation than a kingdom.

Some of us have zero interest in bowing to any king.

My 2 CP.


Bitter Thorn wrote:

BTW, an alliance may be a better starting point for conversation than a kingdom.

Some of us have zero interest in bowing to any king.

My 2 CP.

While the name for the mechanic of the game that has, as of now, potential of being a topic of discussion is Kingdom, that doesn't mean that's the government we have to put in place. The beauty of this game is it's freedom and the power that is placed directly in the hands of the players. You don't want a king, fine. Come discuss with us what you do want, and, as players and comrades, let's build the game we desire.

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<Magistry> Clexarews wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

BTW, an alliance may be a better starting point for conversation than a kingdom.

Some of us have zero interest in bowing to any king.

My 2 CP.

While the name for the mechanic of the game that has, as of now, potential of being a topic of discussion is Kingdom, that doesn't mean that's the government we have to put in place. The beauty of this game is it's freedom and the power that is placed directly in the hands of the players. You don't want a king, fine. Come discuss with us what you do want, and, as players and comrades, let's build the game we desire.

Cool. I don't know if I have the hardware to do the Mumble thing, but I am certainly interested in building relationships among good settlements.

I'm not a company commander or anything, but I am definitely interested in learning more and getting to know other folks. So I will see what i can do to participate.

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Bitter Thorn wrote:

BTW, an alliance may be a better starting point for conversation than a kingdom.

Some of us have zero interest in bowing to any king.

While kingdom gets used a lot because it's an easy option in a fantasy setting, the appropriate word is Nation, and I suspect there won't be as many kingdoms as people assume.

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Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

BTW, an alliance may be a better starting point for conversation than a kingdom.

Some of us have zero interest in bowing to any king.

While kingdom gets used a lot because it's an easy option in a fantasy setting, the appropriate word is Nation, and I suspect there won't be as many kingdoms as people assume.

Nation is fine terminology with me.

Some of us CG types just aren't interested in monarchies. ;)

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OK, I loaded mumble and it seems to be linking the world in. But I do not want the world. Team speak was a lot easier.

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Guurzak wrote:


Golgotha's gameplan is a little more nuanced than just lurking about on our clifftop looking ominous.

I was thinking you guys could be Snake Mountain and we could be Castle Grayskull :D

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Bitter Thorn wrote:

Nation is fine terminology with me.

Some of us CG types just aren't interested in monarchies. ;)

Not all tyrants are monarchs, some are actually common folk as well, especially when you talk about "mob rule" and "tyranny of the minority".

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albadeon wrote:
8:30pm EST is 2:30am here in Germany and 10:30am in Sydney. On a weekday...

Yeah unfortunately the bulk of TAI will be at work.

Looks like most of our negotiations will be done in delay mode

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I would love to stop by and say hello, sadly like Corwyn I'll also be working.

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I read above that the meeting is open to anyone. Is it still planned for later this day? Is it indeed still open to all?


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Bluddwolf wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

Nation is fine terminology with me.

Some of us CG types just aren't interested in monarchies. ;)

Not all tyrants are monarchs, some are actually common folk as well, especially when you talk about "mob rule" and "tyranny of the minority".

Wasn't that also 'tyranny of the majority', when applying majority rule to issues like the rights of a minority?

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Lord Regent: Deacon Wulf wrote:
I read above that the meeting is open to anyone. Is it still planned for later this day? Is it indeed still open to all?

Anybody can drop by and say "hi". 8:30 PM Eastern. It's planned to go 2 hours but if folks want to talk longer, that's fine.

Later meetings will be more private as we discuss trade, non-aggression, alliances and such. Wouldn't want the wrong people at those meetings. :-)

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Corwyn Rand wrote:
albadeon wrote:
8:30pm EST is 2:30am here in Germany and 10:30am in Sydney. On a weekday...

Yeah unfortunately the bulk of TAI will be at work.

Looks like most of our negotiations will be done in delay mode

Maybe we can set something up on a Saturday for the more international folks to talk.

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Bitter Thorn wrote:
Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

BTW, an alliance may be a better starting point for conversation than a kingdom.

Some of us have zero interest in bowing to any king.

While kingdom gets used a lot because it's an easy option in a fantasy setting, the appropriate word is Nation, and I suspect there won't be as many kingdoms as people assume.

Nation is fine terminology with me.

Some of us CG types just aren't interested in monarchies. ;)

I use Kingdom and Kings because the land we are in is called The River Kingdoms, not the River Nations. :-)

But nation building mechanics are a long way off. How we form one if probably a discussion for another day, once we know how the mechanics will work.

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If we hosted another one this Saturday at 10 AM eastern [which is GMT-4], could you international folks make that one? That would be, what? 2 PM Germany and 6 PM TAI time?

Also give folks in the US who work at night a chance to talk with a real live Kabal person! :-)

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As long as all of your settlements within an alliance is one step from an agreed upon alignment, I think you will be fine with nation mechanics come along.

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<kabal> Bunibuni wrote:
Lord Regent: Deacon Wulf wrote:
I read above that the meeting is open to anyone. Is it still planned for later this day? Is it indeed still open to all?

Anybody can drop by and say "hi". 8:30 PM Eastern. It's planned to go 2 hours but if folks want to talk longer, that's fine.

Later meetings will be more private as we discuss trade, non-aggression, alliances and such. Wouldn't want the wrong people at those meetings. :-)

If you find that the empire or Callambea itself is apart of the right people group please let us know.

As Guurzak said, we are not lawful stupid. Our settlements would love the opportunity to talk about trade with this potential power block.

Additionally if it works better for that conversation to happen outside of the meeting tonight that is also fine. The last thing we want to do is intrude.

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This is the thing on mumble.com(client1.2.7) correct?


Download Link for Mumble= Download Link

Once Mumble is downloaded you click "Add New"

Label= Is what you want to call this Username so I good choice would be Kabal

Address= east3.voice.enjin.com

Port= 60153

Username= Most of us go by our forum/game names for example mine is Pexx
Once you have joined go the top and select “Configure” and run the "Audio Wizard".

After the wizard is finished you will need to set up push to talk. To do this select Configure again and go to “Settings”

Then select “Shortcuts”

Toward the bottom select “Add”

In the “Functions” Column there will now be a drop down list. Select “Push-to-Talk”

In the “Shortcut” Column click it then select the key you want to use as your push-to talk button.

Click “Apply” then “Ok”

***IF YOU ARE A MAC USER***

Do the following before you set up push to talk Mac Users


.@ Lord Reagent: Deacon Wolf Yes, as far as I know it's open to all.
.@Malrunwa Soves yes, that the correct version the 1.3.0 is an option to download/upgrade as well, but that is a test client and the 1.2.7 client is the stable version.

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<kabal> Bunibuni wrote:
Lord Regent: Deacon Wulf wrote:
I read above that the meeting is open to anyone. Is it still planned for later this day? Is it indeed still open to all?

Anybody can drop by and say "hi". 8:30 PM Eastern. It's planned to go 2 hours but if folks want to talk longer, that's fine.

Later meetings will be more private as we discuss trade, non-aggression, alliances and such. Wouldn't want the wrong people at those meetings. :-)

If you find that the empire or Callambea itself is apart of the right people group please let us know.

As Guurzak said, we are not lawful stupid. Our settlements would love the opportunity to talk about trade with this potential power block.

Additionally if it works better for that conversation to happen outside of the meeting tonight that is also fine. The last thing we want to do is intrude.

Everyone is welcome. We will not rule anyone out based on their alignment, or even their reputation from... whatever. Every settlement or nation will have an opportunity to make their own bed.

That said I think this will be more of a meet, chat and maybe toss out some possibilities for more detailed discussions to happen soon after.

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<kabal> Bunibuni wrote:

If we hosted another one this Saturday at 10 AM eastern [which is GMT-4], could you international folks make that one? That would be, what? 2 PM Germany and 6 PM TAI time?

Also give folks in the US who work at night a chance to talk with a real live Kabal person! :-)

TAI time! I LOLed. The bulk of us are in east coast Australia AEST(or AEDT in summer) which is GMT+10. But I might take it to parliament to change it to TAI time because I like it better now.

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Quote:
Since 30 June 2012 when the last leap second was added,[3] TAI has been exactly 35 seconds ahead of UTC.

I do not think TAI is that different from German time (UTC + 2), maybe 2 hours, not 4. I think that 10 a.m. EDT may be midnight (+1/-1) for Australia, east coast or ACT.

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