An understandable reaction, though my previous advice to just not play with GMs who'd do this stands as, IMO, a better option.
so i am sorry for my uneeded rage. i honestly thought the queen was going through the act of causing the Drizz't DMPC bullying ExperienceAnd this is the part where you veer from "Perfectly understandable." to "WTF, dude?" since there's basically zero evidence that anything of the sort is going on here. You just leaped right in and acted like it was with basically zero reason to.
usually, i see threads about "Disrespecting a monarch" or disrespecting a similar high level PC, and it tends to make me think of my Drizz't Trauma due to being pushed around by epic level NPCs and i tend to assume every high level NPC that demands respect is going to do the same.
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usually, i see threads about "Disrespecting a monarch" or disrespecting a similar high level PC, and it tends to make me think of my Drizz't Trauma due to being pushed around by epic level NPCs and i tend to assume every high level NPC that demands respect is going to do the same.
Yeah...but that's a reason, not an excuse. Jumping to conclusions like this is unwise, impolite, and generally a bad idea...try and maintain an open mind and read what's actually written, not what your biases say will be.
I know I occasionally need to take a moment and really read a post that has to do with one of my hot-button issues before posting to make sure I'm not being unfair or misreading the situation. I'd advise you, and indeed everybody, to do the same.
usually, i see threads about "Disrespecting a monarch" or disrespecting a similar high level PC, and it tends to make me think of my Drizz't Trauma due to being pushed around by epic level NPCs and i tend to assume every high level NPC that demands respect is going to do the same.
An understandable reaction, though my previous advice to just not play with GMs who'd do this stands as, IMO, a better option.
so i am sorry for my uneeded rage. i honestly thought the queen was going through the act of causing the Drizz't DMPC bullying ExperienceAnd this is the part where you veer from "Perfectly understandable." to "WTF, dude?" since there's basically zero evidence that anything of the sort is going on here. You just leaped right in and acted like it was with basically zero reason to.
I get it but it is a assumption you should try to move from or most games you play will irritate the piss out of you. the Fey Queen is an ancient being that is trying to hold back her people who have felt attacked and any of her previous attempts to make peace have been soundly rebuked. she has a personality and was very agitated from various fronts when she went to the meeting and the LCs representative was refusing to be reasonable cause that is... was his personality. the townsfolk hung him and then celebrated
usually, i see threads about "Disrespecting a monarch" or disrespecting a similar high level PC, and it tends to make me think of my Drizz't Trauma due to being pushed around by epic level NPCs and i tend to assume every high level NPC that demands respect is going to do the same.Yeah...but that's a reason, not an excuse. Jumping to conclusions like this is unwise, impolite, and generally a bad idea...try and maintain an open mind and read what's actually written, not what your biases say will be.
I know I occasionally need to take a moment and really read a post that has to do with one of my hot-button issues before posting to make sure I'm not being unfair or misreading the situation. I'd advise you, and indeed everybody, to do the same.
and the new DM likes and appreciates this idea. its brilliant!
Nope the party could have said no to the quest if they wanted to. I intend her to be a ally for later and they will benefit from powerful allies for the end game, look up Tar-Baphon and you should understand why. not all over powered NPCs are out to screw you. I like the people I am gaming with and they are being very nice as I learn to DM in this Campaign. I genuinely want them to play have fun and finish my campaign. I am having a blast creating it and luckily they seem to be enjoying it.
in that case, allow me to apologize, i had many groups who used high level NPCs/DMPCs to push to party around and made the mistake of assuming you did the same. if Fey tend to have intense emotional occurences, the fey queen would probably forget about the insult in exchange for a good meal and a pleasing night in the bed chambers. because fey are also hedonistic and highly sensitive when it comes to the sense of touch.
Nope the party could have said no to the quest if they wanted to. I intend her to be a ally for later and they will benefit from powerful allies for the end game, look up Tar-Baphon and you should understand why. not all over powered NPCs are out to screw you. I like the people I am gaming with and they are being very nice as I learn to DM in this Campaign. I genuinely want them to play have fun and finish my campaign. I am having a blast creating it and luckily they seem to be enjoying it.in that case, allow me to apologize, i had many groups who used high level NPCs/DMPCs to push to party around and made the mistake of assuming you did the same. if Fey tend to have intense emotional occurences, the fey queen would probably forget about the insult in exchange for a good meal and a pleasing night in the bed chambers. because fey are also hedonistic and highly sensitive when it comes to the sense of touch.
that hilarious cause in the core the game recommends having the Queen take a PC as her paramour. and that would make this the second time a NPC became fixated on the bard. he ran from the naked woman in his room and kissed the male tavern owner. we still laugh about that.
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that would make her insane. if she doesn't apologize or does it in a mouthy way I might do thatYou could go with a magic item that works just fine, but the command to activate it is something like, "I apologize to her majesty for acting like an ass."
That would be pretty cool.
I was thinking she could tell the party something like, "You did so splendidly well with your mission for me, I was thinking about providing you a bonus. After XYZ's passionate presentation, I knew exactly how the bonus should be spent to benefit you."
Then add a permanent magic mouth to either XYZ's item or the communal item. Once triggered (by holding the item in hand), the magic mouth could read inspiring poetry about passionate people or maybe says 'Long live the Queen.' Even better, make it a single Magic Mouth which triggers by spouting racial slurs in a certain language when native speakers of the language are present. Or maybe let it just sit there while the players keep asking about it... Until 3 game sessions go by without them asking, then it going off on some random condition.
This should reinforce the player's perceptions of the queens feelings on what happened AND provide them with an amount of Gold Pieces lost to think about (even though they weren't going to get the gold anyways... but they don't need to know that).
now that i think about it, i must be a Fey IRL
Primary Categories
Hedonistic; Check
Youthful and for a usually Prolonged period; Check
Excessive Emotional Output; Check
Excessively Sensitive Sense of Touch; Check
Cute; well, my faerie loving boyfriend loves his cute girlfriend
Creepy; Check
Alien Mindset; Check
Sweet Tooth; Check
Petite or Lithe Frame; Check, Check
Allergy to Cold Iron; i really don't know
Fast Healer; Not really. unless you count a seperate category for poor constitution
Optional Categories
Female Biology; Check
Childlike compared to most adults her age; Check
Rapid Mood Swings; Check
Familiar or Servant; my Boyfriend Plays this role
extremely open; my boyfriend and i share a lot of stuff, including profiles
Cute Sounding Name; does Ilina Selene Aniri Count?
yes, i think i might as well be a Fey, maybe i shouldn't have disrespected a queen that happens to be a distant cousin.
a light pranking and family would be forgiven
that hilarious cause in the core the game recommends having the Queen take a PC as her paramour. and that would make this the second time a NPC became fixated on the bard. he ran from the naked woman in his room and kissed the male tavern owner. we still laugh about that.Nope the party could have said no to the quest if they wanted to. I intend her to be a ally for later and they will benefit from powerful allies for the end game, look up Tar-Baphon and you should understand why. not all over powered NPCs are out to screw you. I like the people I am gaming with and they are being very nice as I learn to DM in this Campaign. I genuinely want them to play have fun and finish my campaign. I am having a blast creating it and luckily they seem to be enjoying it.in that case, allow me to apologize, i had many groups who used high level NPCs/DMPCs to push to party around and made the mistake of assuming you did the same. if Fey tend to have intense emotional occurences, the fey queen would probably forget about the insult in exchange for a good meal and a pleasing night in the bed chambers. because fey are also hedonistic and highly sensitive when it comes to the sense of touch.
do it, have her seduce the bard as a means of showing interest. you could go all Tsundere or Even Himedere. in fact, have her let the bard know he belongs to her now.
a light pranking and family would be forgiven
in that case, can i be punished by being forced to wear a cold iron ring for 8 hours instead?
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that would make her insane. if she doesn't apologize or does it in a mouthy way I might do thatYou could go with a magic item that works just fine, but the command to activate it is something like, "I apologize to her majesty for acting like an ass."
That would be pretty cool.
I was thinking she could tell the party something like, "You did so splendidly well with your mission for me, I was thinking about providing you a bonus. After XYZ's passionate presentation, I knew exactly how the bonus should be spent to benefit you."
Then add a permanent magic mouth to either XYZ's item or the communal item. Once triggered (by holding the item in hand), the magic mouth could read inspiring poetry about passionate people or maybe says 'Long live the Queen.' Even better, make it a single Magic Mouth which triggers by spouting racial slurs in a certain language when native speakers of the language are present. Or maybe let it just sit there while the players keep asking about it... Until 3 game sessions go by without them asking, then it going off on some random condition.
This should reinforce the player's perceptions of the queens feelings on what happened AND provide them with an amount of Gold Pieces lost to think about (even though they weren't going to get the gold anyways... but they don't need to know that).
slapping magic mouth on an item would be hilarious. mostly I was wanting the time to work normally with a &chance to do something weird. I might add magic mouth to that list of odd things.... dirty limerick fireballs, insulting buffs, singing scorching rays... oh this could be hilarious and for the lols she would use its. YAY!!!!!!!
slapping magic mouth on an item would be hilarious. mostly I was wanting the time to work normally with a &chance to do something weird. I might add magic mouth to that list of odd things.... dirty limerick fireballs, insulting buffs, singing scorching rays... oh this could be hilarious and for the lols she would use its. YAY!!!!!!!
don't forget things like adding a few positive effects to the item. for example, a chance to weaponize those effects so they aren't entirely a hindrance.
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don't forget things like adding a few positive effects to the item. for example, a chance to weaponize those effects so they aren't entirely a hindrance.
slapping magic mouth on an item would be hilarious. mostly I was wanting the time to work normally with a &chance to do something weird. I might add magic mouth to that list of odd things.... dirty limerick fireballs, insulting buffs, singing scorching rays... oh this could be hilarious and for the lols she would use its. YAY!!!!!!!
I might go that route. and you have no idea how tempting it is to do that to the bard, his reaction would be epic but the bard is being retired and place in the pathfinder lodge to do research and that will matter a lot later. far more than the hilarity that could happen if the Fey Queen picked him for her paramour. if I can figure out a way I still might do to for the hilarity of it all. so tempting
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slapping magic mouth on an item would be hilarious. mostly I was wanting the time to work normally with a &chance to do something weird. I might add magic mouth to that list of odd things.... dirty limerick fireballs, insulting buffs, singing scorching rays... oh this could be hilarious and for the lols she would use its. YAY!!!!!!!
Even something as simple as an orcish insult whenever the item is used in combat can be pretty awesome. Yeah while the wielder might think it an insult to them, so would the the Orcs hearing it. Would it be enough to draw some or all the orc agro in the area? Up to the situation. Funnier if the language is one the wielder does not know.
Keep in mind, the player or the party might decide to have it dispelled; at which point I would let them do so. By that point it should have served it's purpose... Of reminding them happy NPC's pay better and unhappy NPC's can cost them.
slapping magic mouth on an item would be hilarious. mostly I was wanting the time to work normally with a &chance to do something weird. I might add magic mouth to that list of odd things.... dirty limerick fireballs, insulting buffs, singing scorching rays... oh this could be hilarious and for the lols she would use its. YAY!!!!!!!Even something as simple as an orcish insult whenever the item is used in combat can be pretty awesome. Yeah while the wielder might think it an insult to them, so would the the Orcs hearing it. Would it be enough to draw some or all the orc agro in the area? Up to the situation. Funnier if the language is one the wielder does not know.
Keep in mind, the player or the party might decide to have it dispelled; at which point I would let them do so. By that point it should have served it's purpose... Of reminding them happy NPC's pay better and unhappy NPC's can cost them.
I am totally going the magic mouth route I just need an item. a rod most likely is what I want. this group will sometimes go out of their way for the sake of hilarity so they might not want to dispel it or they might hate it. I will find out in time. there are many more sessions to go through before we get there, lots more maiming of my friends, and some plot to finish first
Even better, the queen can enlist the help of fey PC to reveal the truth of quest and/or item at the most aggravating time possible. Gets multiple people at the table involved, making it more fun for the party as a whole.
That sounds like a horrible idea.
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that is true. mostly I would want a staff that has a %chance to misfire in odd ways. like a fireball that sometimes sprays flowers or the takes a round or two to work because it is busy dancing above the battle field. so if I go that route I will want it to be amusing. the new GM is kind of uncertain about this scenario
staff of occasional wonder 10% chance of acting like a rod of wonder
staff of occasional wonder 10% chance of acting like a rod of wonderthat is true. mostly I would want a staff that has a %chance to misfire in odd ways. like a fireball that sometimes sprays flowers or the takes a round or two to work because it is busy dancing above the battle field. so if I go that route I will want it to be amusing. the new GM is kind of uncertain about this scenario
that is hilarious and the entertaining item it the route i am going
Depends on how the NPC is bad-assed.
Is it personal power?
Is it their connection with powerful people?
Is it their cunning?
etc.
Respond appropriately.
Even better, the queen can enlist the help of fey PC to reveal the truth of quest and/or item at the most aggravating time possible. Gets multiple people at the table involved, making it more fun for the party as a whole.That sounds like a horrible idea.
It would have to be done with care to be certain, but done right, it would provide fodder for strong party interaction. The precise details would rely on the players and characters involved, and require the players to play along, but it is at least worth pondering the basic idea.
2- Darkwood Vale of Andoran is a hot bed of lycanthopy . . . even a non evil affliction might have negative social consequences.
Cool!
Afflict the offending character with being a were-poodle, were-beaver or were-bunny, or something similarly ridiculous. The PCs can get the condition removed, but it should be hilarious for a while.
so many hilarious ideas. to the Lord Pizza either item would be entertaining. and to Wheldrake the werebunny would be hilarious and I think she would enjoy it, maybe too much. Concerning the feeblemind being to harsh, yeah it kinda was but I had both NPCs act true to there nature based on everything that had happened to them recently. after the meeting and the feebleming the party took Thurin Kreed back to town while feebleminded and let the towns people decide his fate. now this man has tormented this town for as long as he has held his seat of power. the party left him with the towns folk and went to loot his home and get info they will need later. when they returned, and I rolled percentages for it, Kreed was swinging from a tree and there where still, hours after he had been hung, people throwing rocks at his corpse. that and the party when they secured this meeting did not get a promise of safe passage from the Fey Queen so she held to oath to not harm a antagonistic, sexist, and extremely violent man. they know now for later to ask for a promise of safe passage, the Fey will not break her word. there is some info the party missed and the Queen had access to about his behavior. if they had had it im sure he would have been killed earlier. and I only had one player stand up to the Fey Queen after the feebleminding the rest were silent. after reading through this message board and thinking on it I only want a pranked item for her something with a present for something random to happen and for it to work the rest of the time. the Fey Queen will reward her but will do it in a way Fey way. now my issue it trying to figure out what I want pranked item I want to give to the Sorcerer.
