Very simple question!
Do I need the object in my position to cast said unprepared spell?
or
Do I just make a concentration check?
i am guessing you are referring to the once a day spell cast by the object?
"A bonded object can be used once per day to cast any one spell that the wizard has in his spellbook and is capable of casting, even if the spell is not prepared. This spell is treated like any other spell cast by the wizard, including casting time, duration, and other effects dependent on the wizard's level. This spell cannot be modified by metamagic feats or other abilities. The bonded object cannot be used to cast spells from the wizard's opposition schools (see arcane school)."
seems clear, though as a GM would probably rule that you couldn't use it if you weren't in possession of it. it's not specified so depending on GM you may get by with just a concentration check. nearly all spell items do need to be in the caster's possession to be used. i see this as being understood but not stated.
rossable wrote: i am guessing you are referring to the once a day spell cast by the object?
"A bonded object can be used once per day to cast any one spell that the wizard has in his spellbook and is capable of casting, even if the spell is not prepared. This spell is treated like any other spell cast by the wizard, including casting time, duration, and other effects dependent on the wizard's level. This spell cannot be modified by metamagic feats or other abilities. The bonded object cannot be used to cast spells from the wizard's opposition schools (see arcane school)."
seems clear, though as a GM would probably rule that you couldn't use it if you weren't in possession of it. it's not specified so depending on GM you may get by with just a concentration check. nearly all spell items do need to be in the caster's possession to be used. i see this as being understood but not stated.
Yeah that not stated is the problem with my table :(
While the GM could always rule otherwise, I think the safe and conservative route would be to assume that you couldn't do that if the bonded object wasn't in hand.
There is no GM really atm we were just wondering how it would be handled. :)
You can use it to cast a spell.
Okay, analogy time:
You can use a sword to attack someone.
If you don't have the sword, could you still use the sword to attack someone? No? Of course not.
You have to have the thing to use it. No, they are not going to interrupt every single paragraph of the game rules that refers to using a thing to point out that you can't use a thing you don't have.
Dude as much as I like your response!(edited)We are talking about magic though and that's what I am wondering about?
I just wanted to know does it have to be in your possession or not really I guess.
steve steve 983 wrote: Dude as much as I like your response! you talking about magic though and that's what I am wondering about?
I just wanted to know does it have to be in your possession or not really I guess.
Other than the line: "You can use..." I'm pretty sure you aren't getting any answer on this. Look at it another way... If it doesn't say that you CAN use it without having it in your possesion, why would you assume you could? I actually think Seebs has a point. I think it is logical to assume that to use an item (any item) you have to have said item in your possesion (of course if an item description mentions that it can be used without possesion, then go right ahead)
to make things more clear, only intelligent items can cast on their own outside of your possession. anything else that has similar exception will state it in the description.
Quote: "A bonded object can be used once per day to cast any one spell that the wizard has in his spellbook and is capable of casting..." This is the important part. The bonded object is what is used to cast the spell, not you, thus you need the bonded object in your possession in order to cast the spell.
Think of the bonded object, in this case, like a wand. In order to cast a spell from a wand, you need to have the wand in hand when you want to cast it. If it's not in hand, you can't cast the spell.
rossable wrote: to make things more clear, only intelligent items can cast on their own outside of your possession. anything else that has similar exception will state it in the description. Thanks 8D
Harrison wrote: Quote: "A bonded object can be used once per day to cast any one spell that the wizard has in his spellbook and is capable of casting..." This is the important part. The bonded object is what is used to cast the spell, not you, thus you need the bonded object in your possession in order to cast the spell.
Think of the bonded object, in this case, like a wand. In order to cast a spell from a wand, you need to have the wand in hand when you want to cast it. If it's not in hand, you can't cast the spell. Also Thanks 8D
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