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FiddlersGreen |
![Darius Finch](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/7.-DariusFinch.jpg)
So the armor on this PFS character will cost me:
Mithral full plate: 1500+9000=10500
+1 Mithral Armored Coat: 50+5000+(4000-150)=8900
Edited as I did not notice Mithral armor is already masterwork.
for +9 AC, Max Dex Bonus +3, ACP -2, 25% ASF, 35pounds of weight, and the brawling property. And looking bloody badass.
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FiddlersGreen |
![Darius Finch](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/7.-DariusFinch.jpg)
This is one of the first times I have heard of someone finding a good way to use the Armored Coat.
=)
Stop stalking my quirky-idea threads, BBT! You were even the first commentor when I first thought of and shared the (paragon surge)+(expanded arcana) exploit on these boards! ;)
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Scott Wilhelm |
Scott Wilhelm wrote:Eh, non-monks are better unarmed in bonuses when tallied up, monks just have better dice rolling (they can't use Brawling).
You didn’t say, but if you are getting the brawling enchantment, that suggests you are going to take levels in Monk. You know you lose Evasion if you wear medium armor.
Sure, monks can use Brawling Armor, why not? I do believe that a good unarmed combat build can benefit a great deal from levels in Monk. I've posted a build or 2 that demonstrates that.
But show me your higher damage, unarmed nonMonk build, and I'll proudly use your ideas and give you a shoutout every time.
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Starbuck_II |
![Jeggare Noble](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/32_House-Jeggare-Noble.jpg)
Starbuck_II wrote:Scott Wilhelm wrote:Eh, non-monks are better unarmed in bonuses when tallied up, monks just have better dice rolling (they can't use Brawling).
You didn’t say, but if you are getting the brawling enchantment, that suggests you are going to take levels in Monk. You know you lose Evasion if you wear medium armor.Sure, monks can use Brawling Armor, why not? I do believe that a good unarmed combat build can benefit a great deal from levels in Monk. I've posted a build or 2 that demonstrates that.
But show me your higher damage, unarmed nonMonk build, and I'll proudly use your ideas and give you a shoutout every time.
Brawling is for light armor only, few monks wear light armor. It can't be placed on the Amulet.
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But I'm not enchanting the assemblage as a whole. Only the mithral armored coat (light armor) will be enchanted, and worn over the non-magical mithril full plate.
As for the armor, the full plate is actually the non-negotiable part of the concept, for thematic reasons. The brawling property is very tasty gravy if I can get it.
The problem is your full plate will negate ALL of the properties of your armored coat INCLUDING THE ENCHANTMENT.
That's the thing about the game, you have to make choices, and certain doors opened, will close others.
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Something else you could consider is maybe the Armored Kilt or enchanted Bracers to try and grab an additional effect. Probably opening up another can of worms.
Which still won't work, since he wants to wear a full set of plate armor in addition. And you can't cheese things by wearing +1 bracers with qualities. the Paizo folks specifically closed out that 3.5 loophole.
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Robert A Matthews |
![Red Dragon](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/DragonSacrifice_final.jpg)
FiddlersGreen wrote:But I'm not enchanting the assemblage as a whole. Only the mithral armored coat (light armor) will be enchanted, and worn over the non-magical mithril full plate.
As for the armor, the full plate is actually the non-negotiable part of the concept, for thematic reasons. The brawling property is very tasty gravy if I can get it.
The problem is your full plate will negate ALL of the properties of your armored coat INCLUDING THE ENCHANTMENT.
That's the thing about the game, you have to make choices, and certain doors opened, will close others.
I see no reason for a magic armored coat to cease functioning when combined with a nonmagical full plate considering the item description even says it can be worn over other armor.
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Robert A Matthews |
![Red Dragon](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/DragonSacrifice_final.jpg)
You know looking at mithril I don't think it changes the armour catagory for anything other than the penalties associated with wearing the armor.
Most mithral armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations.
Edit: Where does it say that Lazarx?
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LazarX wrote:I see no reason for a magic armored coat to cease functioning when combined with a nonmagical full plate considering the item description even says it can be worn over other armor.FiddlersGreen wrote:But I'm not enchanting the assemblage as a whole. Only the mithral armored coat (light armor) will be enchanted, and worn over the non-magical mithril full plate.
As for the armor, the full plate is actually the non-negotiable part of the concept, for thematic reasons. The brawling property is very tasty gravy if I can get it.
The problem is your full plate will negate ALL of the properties of your armored coat INCLUDING THE ENCHANTMENT.
That's the thing about the game, you have to make choices, and certain doors opened, will close others.
No reason... other than that the rules clearly say it does.
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Starbuck_II |
![Jeggare Noble](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/32_House-Jeggare-Noble.jpg)
Well, the idea is Weapon Master Fighter would be +20 BAB + WT 5 + Gloves of Dueling +2 + 1 WF + 1 GWF + 8 Str + 2 Brawler + 5 Amulet of Mighty Fist -5 Power Attack= 39 Hit.
Damage is 1d3 + 8 Str + 2 WS + 2 GWS + 5 Amulet + 2 Brawler + 12 PA + 5 WT + 2 Gloves =1d3+ 38 damage.
Reminder that he Crit multiplier x3 auto confirming. X/day, he gets x4 Crit Multiplier.
Later maybe a full Build.
Sure, we could add other cool things like haste, etc but this is basics.