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Sczarni

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So I was looking at a few of these and thought they would be really fun to play. Are these legal to do in PFS? I don't want to buy them to run on our game days if they aren't, but would love to run some stuff if they are!

Grand Lodge 4/5

Some of them are, if you go to the Additional Resources, and look in the first section, the Adventure Path area, each AP that has chronciles available will have a link there to download the set.

Ones with chronicles:
Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition
Carrion Crown
Jade Regent
Skull & Shackles
Shattered Star
Reign of Winter

Some others are on the way, but have not been released yet.

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/5

As kinevon says, some of the APs have been opened up for PFS play. However, have a careful read of chapter 6 of the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organised Play to make sure that you're absolutely clear on how this works.

Sczarni

You have 2 choices on applying the APs for pfs credit.

1. Run the entire AP as a stand alone campaign. Credit can be handed out all at the end of the campaign or as each section. Bad part is that the pfs pc assigned for credit can't play encounters during the campaign.

2. Each Section that assigns PFS credit is ran as a stand alone module. This can be easier to do, especially if you might not have the year to two years to run a full AP. Plus, if several APs are used, you could jump from one to another and get pfs tools up to lvl 15, 16, or 17 in a matter of months.

I prefer doing the entire AP in its entirety for the story but both can be done.

Sczarni

I meant pfs toons

Dark Archive 2/5

No, you got it correct: PFS PC. This isn't World of Warcraft.

Shadow Lodge 3/5

Ulfen Death Squad wrote:
1. Run the entire AP as a stand alone campaign. Credit can be handed out all at the end of the campaign or as each section. Bad part is that the pfs pc assigned for credit can't play encounters during the campaign.

This isn't entirely correct. You cannot choose to hand out the chronicles in lump sum at the end. You have to hand them out as you finish each santioned section. Mike Brock has already said this is how it is done (though I don't have a link).

I don't really understand the last part about PFS PCs playing "encounters". When you play a it as a home game you use homemade characters and apply the credit to one of your PFS characters. You can still play scenarios with your PFS characters as they are not tied to the AP in any way.

Sczarni

Thanks for the information guys, glad I found PFS :)

Sczarni

It might be if the crediting section is played over several days or weeks that you can't play the credit receiving pc at the time. I will look it up.

I guess I was wrong on holding the chronicle sheets till the end. I have passed them out as my group advances. I had thought that was an option.

I always appreciate correction if I am wrong. It can make me a better gm when I do gm.

Shadow Lodge 3/5

You are correct Ulfen. If you are just playing the sanctioned portion with a PFS character and are doing it over several sessions then you can't play any scenarios with that character until the sanctioned section is complete.

4/5

Anthony DiDomenico wrote:


I don't really understand the last part about PFS PCs playing "encounters". When you play a it as a home game you use homemade characters and apply the credit to one of your PFS characters. You can still play scenarios with your PFS characters as they are not tied to the AP in any way.

Right, the when you're playing it out as a campaign, the character you're playing the AP with is NOT a PFS character, it's just like any other character in a home game. There aren't enough chronicle sheets to keep a PFS character up to level with the characters playing the AP. This also means that you don't have to follow the PFS character creation rules when you play that way.

If you're just playing it as a module, then the character IS a PFS character and is locked in. But that should only take as long as it takes to play a module, and you'll have to play stuff outside of the APs to keep up to level on your characters since the APs only give you one chronicle sheet (and thus one level) per book.

Sczarni

I do have one question. This might one of those "gm discretion" things but I will go ahead. If I am playing an AP, let's say rise of the runelords, with a AP character but I want to play the highest credit part with a pfs pc that is lvl 16 or so and assign the other 5 chronicle sheets to a different pc.

Basically I would play the first 5 1/2 books with the AP character but when it got time for the last credit section, the pfs pc gets sent in. Of course, the pfs pc would be under normal pfs rules for death, purchasing and what not.

5/5

Ulfen Death Squad wrote:

I do have one question. This might one of those "gm discretion" things but I will go ahead. If I am playing an AP, let's say rise of the runelords, with a AP character but I want to play the highest credit part with a pfs pc that is lvl 16 or so and assign the other 5 chronicle sheets to a different pc.

Basically I would play the first 5 1/2 books with the AP character but when it got time for the last credit section, the pfs pc gets sent in. Of course, the pfs pc would be under normal pfs rules for death, purchasing and what not.

Everyone in that last 1/2 book would need to be legal PFS characters of appropriate level for the scenario, and the game would have to be run by PFS rules in that case.

If it's not in campaign mode, the game has to be 100% PFS mode.

Sczarni

So if I were to want to switch from my campaign pc to a pfs pc that is in range, everyone would have to and have a pfs pc in that range?

Shadow Lodge 3/5

Ulfen Death Squad wrote:
So if I were to want to switch from my campaign pc to a pfs pc that is in range, everyone would have to and have a pfs pc in that range?

Yes. You are effectively changing from running it in campaign mode to running it in PFS mode as stand-alone santioned material.

Sczarni

I got it. Thanks. It would be cool if the same pfs pc could claim having been in the groups that killed Krune and killed Karzoug.

Scarab Sages 4/5

There's nothing that says all of the chronicles from playing the AP in Campaign Mode must be assigned to the same PFS character. So you could continue to play it in Campaign Mode with the a same Campaign Mode character you've been using and just assign that last chronicle to the PFS character you want it to be on. This is what I would think would be preferable, since it would maintain the story and you'd get to use the same character that played the rest of the AP to play the last part. Just to clarify... the chronicle for Books 1-5 could go on your -5 character. The chronicle for book 6 could go on your -1 character. There's no problem with that in the rules for Campaign Mode.

Or, you could play a PFS Sanctioned version of the last section of the AP using your actual PFS character. In this case, yes, as Sniggevert pointed out, it would need to be run by PFS rules, including only PFS legal characters of the appropriate level participating. So it would likely be a separate event from the ongoing AP, unless your entire Campaign Mode group wants to do the same thing. The downside here is that if your entire Campaign Mode group does not want to do the same thing, then you'd either be leaving them without your character to finish the AP, or you'd be playing it a second time already knowing what's coming.

Finally, if you're set on playing that PFS character in the existing campaign, remember... it's Campaign Mode, so the rules of what's allowed in the AP are up to the GM. If your GM is ok with it, there's no reason you couldn't bring your "PFS" character in at the last minute, still playing Campaign Mode. Even though you wouldn't technically be playing your actual PFS character, you could play a character with the same stats, equipment, even background as your PFS character. It would completely be up to your GM, though, to allow that. At the end, you'd just apply the chronicle like you would any other AP chronicle to your actual PFS character. This messes with the continuity of the AP, though, and I don't know why you'd want to play 95% of an AP with one character only to swap them out for the last part.

Shadow Lodge 3/5

If you just apply the credit from the last book to the PFS character that killed Krune he is treated as having played in that sanctioned section. So, for RP and background purposes, he/she would have killed both of them.

Sczarni

Could I still move the gm credit chronicle sheets for a campaign around from pfs pc to pc or is gm credit under the same rule/law as pc credit?

Shadow Lodge 3/5

Whether you GM or play in the AP you apply credit to PCs the same. I don't know what you mean by "move" the chronicle sheets though. Could you clarify a bit?

Sczarni

It was only for lvling and for the rpg flavor of the pc having killed 2 runelords.

Scarab Sages 4/5

Ulfen Death Squad wrote:
Could I still move the gm credit chronicle sheets for a campaign around from pfs pc to pc or is gm credit under the same rule/law as pc credit?

Once a GM chronicle is assigned, it's generally locked in on that character, especially if that character has earned any additional chronicles (from playing or GMing) since then.

An exception might be if you just GM'ed a game and realize you assigned the chronicle to the wrong character. If neither character involved has received another chronicle since, I suppose you could reassign it without harm. But it's a very specific set of circumstances.

Full disclosure, I did this recently when I realized assigning a GM chronicle to one character would level them out of a series I was planning to play with them that weekend. I caught the event organizer in time to get the reporting changed so I could move the GM chronicle to another character.

Sczarni

For example, sheets for books 1 through 4 would go to pc #6 and sheets for books 5 and 6 go to pc #2 who is already retired from encounters. It would give pc #6 a chance to not be fully retired from encounters when receiving campaign gm credit.

Shadow Lodge 3/5

I still don't fully understand but you cannot "move" a chronicle sheet around. The only way you could "move" a chronicle from one PC to another in this case is that it would have to have been the last chronicle assigned and neither PC could have played in anything from the date of the chronicle til now. I want to help but I don't comprehend what you are trying to do with the chronicles exactly.

Shadow Lodge 3/5

Ulfen Death Squad wrote:
For example, sheets for books 1 through 4 would go to pc #6 and sheets for books 5 and 6 go to pc #2 who is already retired from encounters. It would give pc #6 a chance to not be fully retired from encounters when receiving campaign gm credit.

yes, you can do that.

Sczarni

I did not mean assigning a sheet to one pc and then move it to another. I meant give sheets 1 and 2 to one pc, sheets 3 and 4 to another pc. Having different PCs get different chronicle sheets from the same campaign.

Sczarni

I apologize for splitting hairs, as my mom has the habit of saying. I was hoping for some clarification.

Sczarni

Here's another question on topic, say I'm running the low end RotRL first mod, we finish that one but my players aren't high enough for the next one, which starts at like L5 I believe, we don't have to move from one to the next right? Just need some clarification

Grand Lodge 4/5

Ulfen Death Squad wrote:
I did not mean assigning a sheet to one pc and then move it to another. I meant give sheets 1 and 2 to one pc, sheets 3 and 4 to another pc. Having different PCs get different chronicle sheets from the same campaign.

For the APs, as long as the sheet is assigned to a PFS PC of the appropriate level or lower, no problem.

You cannot assign a Tier 1-3 chronicle to a PC who is 4th level or higher, for example.

As an example, however, you can assign a Tier 3-5 chrconicle to a character who is lower level than 3rds. Once the PC hits 3rd, that chronicle is immediately applied, jumping them to 4th (barring slow track).

The only exception, at this time, is for the chronicle sheets for playing the module The Dragon's Demand in campaign mode. This module has a bonus 4th chronicle which can be awarded, but only if all 4 chronicles are applied to the same PFS PC. ALso, if DD is played in campaign mode, the chronicles are supposed to be given out only after the game is done, as a batch, not at the completion of the relevant part.

Sczarni

If anyone knows the answer to my question above it'd be awesome to get an answer fore Friday afternoon, I'm heading for a long road trip and wont have connection for a couple of days.

Grand Lodge 5/5

Sunshineband wrote:
Here's another question on topic, say I'm running the low end RotRL first mod, we finish that one but my players aren't high enough for the next one, which starts at like L5 I believe, we don't have to move from one to the next right? Just need some clarification

If you are in campaign mode, you can do whatever you want.

If you are all using PFS PCs and playing in module mode then, your PCs must fall within the level range for the Chronicle sheet in order to play the sanctioned content as a PFS adventure.

If your PFS PCs aren't high enough level yet, they will need to play other PFS adventures to earn enough XP before they can play that section of the AP in module mode.

You could also, just use non-PFS PCs and play through that book of the AP in campaign mode and then assign the Chronicle to your PFS PC and add it to their stack once they reach the lowest level on the Chronicle sheet.

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