Wraslin!!!

[showzilla]

how would you guys handle a body slam?

current method I've got so far is as such:

grapple cmb=succeed

damage=unarmed damage (considered one size category larger), treated as a two-handed attack for damage/feat purposes.

effects=enemy "falls prone", provoking attacks of opportunity as normal.

keep in mind, this applies to real martial art slams like the kind you mostly see in western unarmed martial arts.

[LazarX]

CMB maneuvers describe what is possible in game.

This is a dice based wargame, not a real life simulator.

[Vamptastic]

LazarX wrote:

CMB maneuvers describe what is possible in game.

This is a dice based wargame, not a real life simulator.

Luckily this is the homebrew and house rule section, so we can turn it into a real life simulator.

[showzilla]

Vamptastic wrote:

LazarX wrote:

CMB maneuvers describe what is possible in game.

This is a dice based wargame, not a real life simulator.

Luckily this is the homebrew and house rule section, so we can turn it into a real life simulator.

jawesome...so how would you handle it? obviously you need to be able to lift someone as a heavy load if you want to body slam them. I'm thinking about some knight getting grappled by an orc from behind and the knight reverses the situation with a suplex or something of the sort.

[Vamptastic]

I think simplicity is key here. And I think the rules should be different in an actual fight, than if they're both in a legit wrestling contest.

Admittedly, I'm not so great with crunch, so I might not be the guy to ask, but I think in a fight, maybe simplicity is key, and just whoever rolls higher after a grapple check does what they want. In a contest, maybe they'd pit their strength against each other, or something. I don't know.

[Zhayne]

Reason from effect.

What's the end result? Person on ground.
What maneuver puts people on the ground? A trip.

Therefore, the body slam is just the special effect of successfully tripping someone.

[rainzax]

how about as a feat privilege?

got two from: Improved Grapple, Improved Trip, and/or Power Attack?

then you can perform a special Body Slam maneuver that trips and deals unarmed damage. if you are in control of a grapple, you may do so as a two-handed attack (x1.5 STR to damage).

[Arkady Zelenka]

@rainzax
That feat privilege is a pretty cool idea.

Check out Little Red Goblin Games King of the Ring for more on wrestling maneuvers.

[Conman the Bardbarian]

knockdown or raging throw?