1) A tiny character has a reach of 0 feet. So it has to enter the opponents square. This grants an attack of opportunity even if only a 5' step. Correct?
2) A way around this would be to 'acrobatics roll' into the opponents square. DC = defenders CMD. Correct?
3) Another way around this would be to use a long spear (or other reach weapon), since a tiny long spear would give a reach of 5 feet. Correct?
4) Titan mauler using a small weapon. Would give back the 5 foot reach. Correct? (I am least sure of this one.)
Any other non-obvious ways around it?
For number 4, that doesn't follow. Using larger than standard weapons for your size is kind of an awkward mechanic in Pathfinder and D&D 3.x: you could use a much larger weapon, but it technically does NOT grant you increased reach. At my table, I'd probably rule that it does, but there's nothing in the rules to confer that ability.
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1) attack of opportunity even if only a 5' step. Correct?
2) A way around this would be to 'acrobatics roll' into the opponents square. DC = defenders CMD. Correct?
3) Another way around this would be to use a long spear (or other reach weapon), since a tiny long spear would give a reach of 5 feet. Correct?
4) Titan mauler using a small weapon. Would give back the 5 foot reach. Correct? (I am least sure of this one.)
Any other non-obvious ways around it?
1) No, you may 5 ft step into a square if you can stay there (Tiny can stay in Medium squares.) This is debated, so YMMV.
2) Defender CMD + 5.
3) Tiny don't gain reach in Pathfinder (unless recently changed.)
4) Reach weapons are only reach weapons if "appropriately sized".
1) I thought it had been resolved that it does provoke when you enter an opponents square. I didn't realize it was still debated.
2) Right I forgot the +5
3) Where does it say tiny weapons don't gain reach. I must have missed that.
4) This wasn't about using a reach weapon. It had been suggested that if a tiny creature was using say a small sized greatsword it would be back to the 5' reach. I wasn't at all sure about that one.
Most of this has been mentioned already but here is my take on it.
1) A tiny creature can still make a 5ft step and not provoke an attack of opportunity. However, if they enter a foe's square to try and hit on a normal attack, then they would provoke the attack of opportunity, that part is not or should not be debated as it is crystal clear.
Creatures that take up less than 1 square of space typically have a natural reach of 0 feet, meaning they can't reach into adjacent squares. They must enter an opponent's square to attack in melee. This provokes an attack of opportunity from the opponent.
It is the next line that causes people to question whether the tiny creature can stay there. "You can attack into your own square if you need to, so you can attack such creatures normally." Meaning that the creature who has the tiny creature come into it's square can attack it normally. It still to me does not say that the tiny creature can remain there. However, barring something like Spring Attack it is difficult for me to imagine how a tiny creature could move into my square, attack me, and then move out of my square. So that leads me to believe that maybe that was the intention.
I usually let things like Stirges move into a square provoking an attack of opportunity, then stay there as they try and grapple their opponent. So, I would think you would be justified allowing a tiny or smaller creature to break the shared space rule.
2)Correct, CMD+5 on the acrobatics would allow safe passage through the occupied square.
3)Correct, a reach weapon for a tiny creature has a reach of 5ft per the explanation of developers like James Jacobs as linked to above.
4)No, the reach is in your arms and size capabilities. Using a Small Sized Short Sword would increase the damage but not the reach. Just like if a Medium creature uses a Large Short Sword, they would not get reach even though a Large creature wielding that same weapon would have reach with it. That reach, ie that does not come from a reach weapon, depends on the creature and not the weapon. I hope this makes sense.
Now, Jotungrip would allow a tiny creature to wield a tiny longspear in one hand with a -2 penalty and have a reach of 5ft.
That is my two cents here...
Ok, looks like I will need to rely on a reach weapon or ridiculous acrobatics skill. Not entirely sure which I will pick.
Thanks guys.