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I'm putting this into the PFS board, and not the general board, because it's the PFS legality of certain archtypes that makes this more difficult. (I know at least some of the gun archtypes for other classes are banned, not sure if all of them are.)
I'm hoping to make a PFS legal Swashbuckler that uses a gun as his ranged weapons option, and trying to determine which avenues I have to do so.
Swashbucklers can not take fighter or gunslinger levels.
Will just taking the gunsmithing feat and exotic weapon prof feat do it?
Since the build I'm going for is already paying through the roof for feats, are there any options like archtypes of other classes that are still legal?
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These are the restrictions on firearms: to buy a gun, you need the Gunsmithing feat and a sufficiently high Fame score. You can wield a gun with or without Exotic Weapon Proficiency, but of course without it you suffer a –4 penalty to attack. Exotic Weapon Proficiency provides proficiency in one type of weapon only, so you would need to take it for each type of gun (musket, pistol, blunderbuss, coat pistol, pepper box, etc.)
The only legal archetypes that gain proficiency with guns are gunslinger archetypes.
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As an extension of this, my reading of the Amateur Gunslinger feat is that if it is taken by a Swashbuckler, it would immediately be changed to the Extra Grit feat since a Panache Pool is the same as a Grit Pool, making it impossible for the Swashbuckler to know a Gunslinger deed.
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That is my reading of it as well.
Edit: though you can take Grit feats from Ultimate Combat as a Swashbuckler, precisely because Panache counts as Grit.
Edit2: looking at Amateur Gunslinger again, it seems that you might be able to take this feat before you have levels of Swashbuckler, then multiclass into Swashbuckler. The Special line says that if you take levels of a class that grants Grit, you "can" swap this feat out for Extra Grit. It does not say you must do so. Build this at your own risk, however, because it might get clarified in the Advanced Class Guide.
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That is my reading of it as well.
Edit: though you can take Grit feats from Ultimate Combat as a Swashbuckler, precisely because Panache counts as Grit.
Edit2: looking at Amateur Gunslinger again, it seems that you might be able to take this feat before you have levels of Swashbuckler, then multiclass into Swashbuckler. The Special line says that if you take levels of a class that grants Grit, you "can" swap this feat out for Extra Grit. It does not say you must do so. Build this at your own risk, however, because it might get clarified in the Advanced Class Guide.
I thought the advanced class guide playtest was closed and one cannot create new playtest rules characters?
I thought the advanced class guide playtest was closed and one cannot create new playtest rules characters?
The playtest is closed for feedback, but it is still usable for making characters. At least until the book comes out, and they change the additional resources.
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Exotic Weapon Proficiency provides proficiency in one type of weapon only, so you would need to take it for each type of gun (musket, pistol, blunderbuss, coat pistol, pepper box, etc.)
This is incorrect. Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Firearms) gets you proficiency with all Firearms. It's the other feats, such as Weapon Focus and Rapid Reload, that apply to one specific Firearm.
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Exotic Weapon Proficiency provides proficiency in one type of weapon only, so you would need to take it for each type of gun (musket, pistol, blunderbuss, coat pistol, pepper box, etc.)This is incorrect. Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Firearms) gets you proficiency with all Firearms. It's the other feats, such as Weapon Focus and Rapid Reload, that apply to one specific Firearm.
Yep. I mixed that up.
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That is my reading of it as well.
Edit: though you can take Grit feats from Ultimate Combat as a Swashbuckler, precisely because Panache counts as Grit.
Edit2: looking at Amateur Gunslinger again, it seems that you might be able to take this feat before you have levels of Swashbuckler, then multiclass into Swashbuckler. The Special line says that if you take levels of a class that grants Grit, you "can" swap this feat out for Extra Grit. It does not say you must do so. Build this at your own risk, however, because it might get clarified in the Advanced Class Guide.
You can choose to swap it out for Extra Grit.
If you don't, you no longer meet its prerequisites, so you lose access to the feat and its benefits anyway.