Please change Master Of Many Styles


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Scarab Sages

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It has been argued by myself and MANY others that the real culprit behind Crane Wing was that the feat could be taken at level 1 or 2 by a dip into Master of Many Styles.

The problem was not due to the feat, because if it used at mid to high levels where it was designed to be used, then it is balanced. If you bypass the per-requisites, then it becomes horribly unbalanced. Crane Style was the worst offender, but other style feats can become problematic at low levels due to Master of Many Styles. Snake Fang, Tiger Pounce, Dragon Ferocity, all have the assumption that they can be taken only after level five. By Bypassing the level requirement, Master of Many Styles is used as a two level dip to gain style feats that are then used by non unarmed builds.

I am asking that we close the loophole in Master of Many styles and only allow the bonus feats at level one and two to be used for the first style feat in a chain only. Later style feats in the chain can be taken from level 6 onward. This is already done for the Unarmed Fighter and his bonus feat. Lets just do the same thing for the Master of Many Styles.


This is exactly the fix that I would do. Brilliant.


This is compelling, as a single change to Crane Style doesn't really address the overarching issue of Master of Many Styles granting early access to feats.

A single change to MoMS might create a lot less downstream work as opposed to changing the Crane style feat itself, especially since it was most problematic at the lower levels where you wouldn't have access to it without MoMS. The Dragon Style line seems like it could offer similar balance issues when it comes to damage scaling, when offered at that low of a level.

Just my opinion.

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