Beast Rider


Rules Questions


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It's probably too late for this since the update is already out, but can the Development team please revisit the Beast Rider archetype for Cavaliers?

Quote:
At 1st level, a beast rider forms a bond with a strong, loyal companion that permits him to ride it as a mount. This mount functions as a druid's animal companion, using the beast rider's level as his effective druid level. The animal chosen as a mount must be large enough to carry the beast rider (Medium or Large for a Small character; Large or Huge for a Medium character).
Quote:
Medium beast riders can choose a camel or horse mount at 1st level. At 4th level, a Medium beast rider can also choose an allosaurus, ankylosaurus, arsinoitherium, aurochs, bison, brachiosaurus, elephant, glyptodon, hippopotamus, lion, mastodon, megaloceros, snapping turtle (giant), tiger, triceratops, or tyrannosaurus as his mount. Additional mounts might be available with GM approval.
  • allosaurus - medium @ level 4
  • ankylosaurus - medium @ level 4
  • arsinoitherium - medium @ level 4
  • aurochs - medium @ level 4
  • bison - medium @ level 4
  • brachiosaurus - medium @ level 4
  • elephant - medium @ level 4
  • glyptodon - medium @ level 4
  • hippopotamus - medium @ level 4
  • mastodon - medium @ level 4
  • megaloceros - medium @ level 4
  • snapping turtle (giant) - medium @ level 4
  • tiger - medium @ level 4
  • triceratops - medium @ level 4
  • tyrannosaurus - medium @ level 4

This means that upon reaching level 4, a Medium Beast Rider either

  • is no longer limited to a mount large enough to carry him or
  • has 17 options for a mount, 15 of which he cannot legally select.

In the case of the former, as far as I can tell, there are no rules outside of the one quoted above that indicate what size differential is required for a mount to be considered 'appropriate.' Which would mean that a level 4 Medium Beast Rider can ride a Medium creature as long as it's strong enough to carry him and his equipment (most of them aren't).


As this thread most explicitly states a problem I have, I would like to know if there is an answer to the question presented or if this has been addressed by the design team?

The simplest answer seems to be that instead of saying 4th level they meant to say 7th. Or that the Beast Rider rules for size adjustment can be used at 4th level. But what is appropriate is incredibly vague.


I guess it is some copy paste error.

ABCoLD wrote:
The simplest answer seems to be that instead of saying 4th level they meant to say 7th

That'S what I'd go with.

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