I would ask my DM if this concept would be ok for Dragon Disciple (without cross classing etc.).
If one of my player asked me for it with this idea, I would say "it's fine, you can ignore the spontaneous casting part of the requirements", because I like the idea. :)
I advice against taking a prestige class with a blade bound. Unless you are gonna house rule it in several ways. Looking the blades progression is gonna be crippeling.
Ok, this is third party, but I think it's the best option:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus/archetypes/super-genius- games---magus-archetypes/cabalist
It's a third-party archetype that is basically a sorcerous magus. I've not played one, but I have fought them (GM likes third-party stuff) and they are decent. Plus, you get bloodline powers. Not too shabby in my mind.
but what if im looking not for a sorcerous magus, but rather a non-sorcerous DD? I know its a small distinction but an important one...
So what you want is really not a dragon disiple but some thing with a similar flavor? What part of the DD is it that attracts you?
Well, if he's considering trading blood of dragons out? Breath Weapon, Flight, Dragon Shape(maybe), and the ability score bonuses probably. I mean, other than a bite attack(that he wouldn't get if BoD is gone) there isn't anything.
No what I want is a Dragon Disciple but one that casts through a bond with his weapon which contains a dragon soul. Not one who becomes a DD because their great great grandma had a fling with smaug.
I mean change two things:
Spellcasting: Ability to cast 1st-level arcane spells without preparation. Nah, just let me use any method of casting prepared or spontaenous. This is easy here, I dont know why this rule exists in the first place.
Blood of Dragons
A dragon disciple adds his level to his sorcerer levels when determining the powers gained from his bloodline. If the dragon disciple does not have levels of sorcerer, he instead gains bloodline powers of the draconic bloodline, using his dragon disciple level as his sorcerer level to determine the bonuses gained. He must choose a dragon type upon gaining his first level in this class and that type must be the same as his sorcerer type.
change that to add my DD level to my magus level for determining the strength of my blackblade. Ignore the bloodline part, just make me choose a dragon.
Bloodline feats could simply be replaced with arcana or i just suck it up and pick from the draconic feats.
That is some pretty heavy homebrew. Considering what you want for flavor, I would say stick with magus & fluff it as you want. Otherwise, you will have to convince your GM, because normally NONE of your magus abilities (magus arcana, blackblade, arcane pool) should continue growing. (there are no PRCs that scale magus powers)
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What specifically do you want DD for? Is it the Ability Score Increases? The Bloodline boost to elemental damage? Form of the Dragon? Natural Armor/HP?
You can get Ability score boosts or Bloodline powers through eldritch heritage feats without taking DD levels. Form of the dragon is just a spell. You can use arcana to add it to your list. Natural armor and bonus hp are trickier, but you could cover it with Improved natural armor and toughness feats.
I think you can add the flavor you are looking for without actually taking DD levels which will stunt your blade growth without house rules.
No what I want is a Dragon Disciple but one that casts through a bond with his weapon which contains a dragon soul. Not one who becomes a DD because their great great grandma had a fling with smaug.
I mean change two things:
Spellcasting: Ability to cast 1st-level arcane spells without preparation. Nah, just let me use any method of casting prepared or spontaenous. This is easy here, I dont know why this rule exists in the first place.
Blood of Dragons
A dragon disciple adds his level to his sorcerer levels when determining the powers gained from his bloodline. If the dragon disciple does not have levels of sorcerer, he instead gains bloodline powers of the draconic bloodline, using his dragon disciple level as his sorcerer level to determine the bonuses gained. He must choose a dragon type upon gaining his first level in this class and that type must be the same as his sorcerer type.
change that to add my DD level to my magus level for determining the strength of my blackblade. Ignore the bloodline part, just make me choose a dragon.
Bloodline feats could simply be replaced with arcana or i just suck it up and pick from the draconic feats.
So compared to the magus you will lose 3 levels of Spell casting, 10 levels of arcane pool progression, the armor casting(at least heavy armor) and all the other cool class features. To gain an umimpressive breath weapon once pr Day, wings one level after the magus get overmand fligth, very Nice stat boosts, natural armor, a bite attack and blind sense.
Seems ok to me:) sell it like this to your GM and you should be on your way to draconic joy.Edit: forgot the dragon shapes that is not gonna swing so well with the Black blade so that is most likely not a problem.
No what I want is a Dragon Disciple but one that casts through a bond with his weapon which contains a dragon soul. Not one who becomes a DD because their great great grandma had a fling with smaug.
I mean change two things:
Spellcasting: Ability to cast 1st-level arcane spells without preparation. Nah, just let me use any method of casting prepared or spontaenous. This is easy here, I dont know why this rule exists in the first place.
Blood of Dragons
A dragon disciple adds his level to his sorcerer levels when determining the powers gained from his bloodline. If the dragon disciple does not have levels of sorcerer, he instead gains bloodline powers of the draconic bloodline, using his dragon disciple level as his sorcerer level to determine the bonuses gained. He must choose a dragon type upon gaining his first level in this class and that type must be the same as his sorcerer type.
change that to add my DD level to my magus level for determining the strength of my blackblade. Ignore the bloodline part, just make me choose a dragon.
Bloodline feats could simply be replaced with arcana or i just suck it up and pick from the draconic feats.
Thinking about it I think I would allow most of this. You'd lose out on claws (and therefore a bite), Dragon Resistances (+2 armor and energy resistance) and would never get a 2nd per day breath weapon or improved flight.
Using form of the dragon basically denies you the use of your blackblade anyway.
I think I'd make you pick feats from the dragon bloodline however. Use normal feats for extra arcana.
My 2 cents
Does the feat Preferred Spell count for DD's prereqs? If so I have some plans.