If your target is flanked, you hit with each weapon, and they lack improved uncanny dodge or a creature type or effect to protect them from that sort of damage, then yes, you get sneak attack for each attack that lands. That was the secret to building combat rogues in 3E: two-weapon fighting and sneak attack. Just add haste or speed weapons or other means of upping your number of attacks.
Yes, both weapons if they hit do sneak attack damage.
So if I as a rouge flanked with someone and laid down 2 attacks with two weapon fighting do i roll sneak attack twice?
Yes. Look for the other threads about building TWF rogues in this forum. Many people build with that in mind. If the conditions for sneak attack are met for every one of your attacks, all of your attacks are individually sneak attacks with your full bonus damage.
Yes.
About the only time a rogue making more than one attack only gets sneak attack with the first is when they are invisible in the middle of combat and appear after the first attack. (Surprise attacking invisible and your target is still flat-footed until they act).
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For fun, a literal answer to the question:
"Does a TWF rogue get to add his sneak attack damage twice?"
No, he only gets his sneak attack damage added ONCE to each individual attack he makes. Attacking with two weapons does not double the sneak attack damage done per attack.
It does, however, double the number of attacks, which allows a TWF rogue to deal twice as much damage as a rogue using only one light/finessed weapon.
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ROUGE is a color.
In fact, it's actually a whole bunch of things, but it's definitely not a class in Pathfinder. :)
2 weapons
i reccomend a pair of daggers, thier versatility beats anything provided by the shortsword and rapier.
i also reccommend the 12 year old Tian-Min girl in the black kimono
look for ways to abuse the advantages of childhood. and prevent the disadvantages of maturing, a predestigitation spell will fix that. anything that keeps the character as a cosmetically 12 year old girl is a good thing.
If you spend your first round intimidating your target, which is stupid easy to do, then you can have full-round sneak attacks with your bow.
The intimidate DC is only 10+HD+Wis Mod.
I'm playing a fighter who dual wields kukri's, he has Dazzling Display, and Corugon's Smash (Cheliax Companion). So if I'm standing next to a guy I can Power Attack, get a free Intimidate check, and then the next 4 attacks are all sneak attack. I don't need no stinking flankers!
2 weapons
i reccomend a pair of daggers, thier versatility beats anything provided by the shortsword and rapier.
Two shortswords and a shortbow are better unless you're playing in a game where magic items aren't available ever. Throwing a dagger isn't useful once you're dual-wielding with magic weapons, since returning weapons suck. Plus, ranged rogues have been nerfed into the ground in PF; it's near-impossible to get more than one ranged sneak attack a turn without Improved Invisibility.
theres also the fact that you get a slashing weapon and a piercing weapon for 1/5th the base price. the fact it fits in a kimono sleeve, and you can get away with one in civilization easier, and oh yeah, it has plenty of uses as a tool.
That's creepy, dude.i also reccommend the 12 year old Tian-Min girl in the black kimono
look for ways to abuse the advantages of childhood. and prevent the disadvantages of maturing, a predestigitation spell will fix that. anything that keeps the character as a cosmetically 12 year old girl is a good thing.
children can possibly wheedle a free suprise round, nobody expects the little girl to be a threat. when she takes out the big guy's kidney with perfect precision, the guy will be suprised. black kimono can have several advantages, easier to hide at night, large sleeves can be tailored to have pockets on the inside. meaning many daggers or other small objects can be fit inside the sleeve pockets. such as peoples wallets. childhood in some settings comes with the following extra advantages, children's discounts, cheaper admission, kids meals, etc. lighter jail sentences, sometimes it may be merely just a slap on the wrist. the ability to crawl through vents, and less food/water/air required to sustain the body.
ROUGE is a color.As much as we see this, Vic ought to just code an auto-correct into the boards :-)
Rez
I think it's better if the leave these. That's half the fun of a thread like this.
ROUGE is a color.As much as we see this, Vic ought to just code an auto-correct into the boards :-)
Rez
What if we get into the intricacies of the disguise skill?
Are we doomed to read "for a more rosy complexion, carefully apply rogue to your cheeks"?
Does this mean kissing? Or cutting him up and smearing your face with bloody junks of thief-flesh? You have some issues, man!
:P
Sometimes as a DM you are going for the SHOCK value...
I designed a Eberron NPC I had plans to use as a baddie. The NPC was a 14-15 year old female Shifter with pig-tails and was a Barbarian/Frenzied Berserker.
Nearly nothing I can think of is as shocking as a cute little cat-girl who can grab a nearby cart and bash you with it repeatedly. :D
If you spend your first round intimidating your target, which is stupid easy to do, then you can have full-round sneak attacks with your bow.
The intimidate DC is only 10+HD+Wis Mod.
I'm playing a fighter who dual wields kukri's, he has Dazzling Display, and Corugon's Smash (Cheliax Companion). So if I'm standing next to a guy I can Power Attack, get a free Intimidate check, and then the next 4 attacks are all sneak attack. I don't need no stinking flankers!
That particular combination doesn't work as well as you say. To use intimidate with a bow, you need to use a standard action to intimidate, then you need +6 BAB and three feats (Weapon Focus, Dazzling Display, and Shatter Defenses), and then your first hit doesn't get sneak attack (because they're not flatfooted until you've hit them at least once). Cornugon Smash doesn't work with archery.
It's not that uber, especially when you consider how feat-intensive archery is.
Yeah that's true about the feats thing, that certain is a fair amount, but not undoable just requires a higher level.
I said 4 attacks because I'm using Boots of Speed so 90% of the time I have 5 attacks.
theres also the fact that you get a slashing weapon and a piercing weapon for 1/5th the base price. the fact it fits in a kimono sleeve, and you can get away with one in civilization easier, and oh yeah, it has plenty of uses as a tool.
Even slaves were permitted to carry knives in most societies (this was actually entrenched in nordic law, IIRC). Someone without a knife/dagger is probably a prisoner in jail.
children can possibly wheedle a free suprise round, nobody expects the little girl to be a threat. when she takes out the big guy's kidney with perfect precision, the guy will be suprised.
Well...maybe not. The modern view of 12 year olds is not quite in sync with historical norms - a 12 year old is very nearly an adult - probably already put to work and gangs of street urchins would be known dangerous quantities. Probably be easier to get the Bluff check off though - just keep in mind that everyone carries knives so will be aware of the possibility. It depends if your game runs as 'modern views with sword and sorcery' or 'poor historical simulation plus magic'.
black kimono can have several advantages, easier to hide at night, large sleeves can be tailored to have pockets on the inside.
Kimono with pockets? Blasphemy! :-) Kimono sleeves were used to hold stuff, sure, though it sounds horribly awkward in practice. It's strange how modern an invention pockets actually are. I guess it depends how anachronism tolerant your GM is ^_^. Probably better off strapping the blade to your forearm.
childhood in some settings comes with the following extra advantages, children's discounts, cheaper admission, kids meals, etc. lighter jail sentences, sometimes it may be merely just a slap on the wrist.
More modern notions...many societies showed little leniency towards child criminals. At the very least that 'slap on the wrist' is likely to be a savage beating/whipping. Spare the rod, after all...
the ability to crawl through vents, and less food/water/air required to sustain the body.
True, though running and jumping should be penalized (probably not climbing though, as lightweight children generally are good climbers). And then there's the penalties to combat maneuvers for being Small.
Also, would children be required to use small category weaponry? Food for thought.
You could give them the Young Template. That does reduce they're effectiveness by a lot...not sure if you'd want to offset that with something? Might be an interesting way to have a Half-Celestial in the party or some such.
when your age is in the double digits, you can get by without the young template. i guess i was referencing modern things. because PF like any other RPG has a lot of modern influence. Guns, Definitely not medieval. maybe 1600's at earliest. worldwide literacy. possibily modern. some of the outfits, modern inspired. look at 2 of our female iconics who stand back to back. Merisiel is essentially wearing a leather catsuit. it may be altered in design, but that is the essence. Seoni wears a minidress and a g-string thong, flaunting her taste in said style of dress in a suggestive fashion. she is basically saying, "I want attention" through a skimpy modern style of dress. the minidress, thong, and catsuit are all pretty recent. i cannot remember miss iconic barbarian's name, but her huge sword was inspired by anime. a modern influence. so it's quite possible the concepts of the kid's meal, children's fare, juvenile sentences, and censorship exist in golarion in some form. we have 3 female iconics who are modern inspired. oh yeah, and all 3 of them look rather animesque. the oven, was a fairly recent creation too. seems more like pathfinder is modern influenced fantasy with a thin coat of medeival paint than outright middle ages. how are those of the 20th-21st century supposed to be dead on about what happened around the 18th century and before. scientists can DNA test all they want. DNA can be fooled by something as minor as a foriegn fingerprint. all we can do of 300 or more years back is speculate. things may support our speculation, but do we truly have witnesses who survived the rennaiscance to describe it? nope, just a bunch of history books biased in favor of those who won whatever war that was entered within the book. history of past centuries devolves from truth, down to legend, down to myth, to fantsy stories.
children can...Still creepy.
+1
look at 2 of our female iconics who stand back to back. Merisiel is essentially wearing a leather catsuit.
Interestingly enough, a closer look at her 'outfit' reveals that it's more armor like than it might seem. The pants are chap-like, it has a distinct vest, neck guard and arm armor - along with cavalier boots. Definitely high fantasy, but catsuit?.
Seoni wears a minidress and a g-string thong, flaunting her taste in said style of dress in a suggestive fashion.
Yeah, this is either pure anime or heavily Conan-themed outfit (though I'd expect Conan themed outfits to have LESS cloth ^_^. What's the proper term for that harem style long cloth thong thingy?
recent. i cannot remember miss iconic barbarian's name, but her huge sword was inspired by anime. a modern influence.
Funny, this is the one time the oversized sword thing makes a shred of sense - it looks like a giant's shortsword. It would still be nearly impossible to use - should be like 100lbs of metal.
seems more like pathfinder is modern influenced fantasy with a thin coat of medeival paint than outright middle ages. how are those of the 20th-21st century supposed to be dead on about what happened around the 18th century and before.
Don't discount historians so easily. It's one thing to speculate on dead cultures (Easter Island), another on the recent past (defined as the last 500 years or so), where a good deal of art and recorded history survives. As for laws, books of laws generally survived quite well.
I agree that most fantasy RPGs are heavily modern in their outlook. Gender equality, anti-slavery, decent sanitation (sewers!) and the like. That shouldn't translate into 'kids get lenient legal treatment', I think that depends a lot on the predominant alignment of the society. It'd probably fly in a NG society, but a LN or LE one?
Let's not let Nekogami's obsession with 12 year old girl rogues distract us from the topic at hand.
What was the topic again?
I agree that most fantasy RPGs are heavily modern in their outlook. Gender equality, anti-slavery, decent sanitation (sewers!) and the like. That shouldn't translate into 'kids get lenient legal treatment', I think that depends a lot on the predominant alignment of the society. It'd probably fly in a NG society, but a LN or LE one?
a lot of these changes are a good thing. but though some kids deserve to be tried as adults and punished as such. such as the 9 year old boy that killed his younger sister in florida with a steak knife, stealing a single item worth less than a dollar should not even be noted, as long as it doesn't require extreme technological skills. if a child damages a gamers Tabletop RPG book, whether it be D&d, pathfinder, or whatever, the gamer should have the right to sue the child and his/her parents for the price of a new copy of the book. it should be taken out of the kid's allowance and the kid, beaten acrss the shins by the gamer through nothing softer than a Steel baseball bat.
12 year old girls make nice rogues should you get a dm that lets you abuse the advantages of childhood.
when your age is in the double digits, you can get by without the young template. i guess i was referencing modern things. because PF like any other RPG has a lot of modern influence. Guns, Definitely not medieval. maybe 1600's at earliest.
How about the 1300s? At least in Europe, the culture of which is the general veneer for high fantasy. For the hackbut, 1400s. Definitely Medieval.
Just sayin.
Let's not let Nekogami's obsession with 12 year old girl rogues distract us from the topic at hand.
What was the topic again?
Heh. I try to ignore the fetishistic undertones of some people's gaming behaviors. We all come to gaming from different places.
12 year old girls make nice rogues should you get a dm that lets you abuse the advantages of childhood.
As long as you suffer the disadvantages too...gold is heavy! Heck, Bags of Holding are heavy...that's why I avoid halfling/gnome rogues...you can't steal as much.
Arcane Trickster FTW...Alter Self anyone?