How do you treat it? Do you roleplay it, and how often does it comes to the table?
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How do you treat it?
Like adults.
Do you roleplay it, and how often does it comes to the table?
All of the major games that I'm part of are Kingdom-based, and when you're the ruler of a kingdom, your heirs have to come from somewhere.
Generally speaking, sex works best when you don't overstep what the most squeamish person at your table is comfortable with. Most of the time, that means sex happens off screen with very little detail. Your mileage may vary, but most people I know aren't comfortable roleplaying sexual encounters with their significant others, let alone close friends. Why get graphic when a simple, "You make love long into the night," suffices just fine.
Naturally, this is also coming from an American standpoint; other cultures are less embarrassed by 'sex talk' than we are, so its important to note that works at one GM's table won't always fly at another GM's table. For that reason, sticking the "don't overstep the boundaries of the most squeamish person at your table," rule is a great mantra to live by!
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Most groups I've played with tend to either ignore it or at most have it happen "offscreen". Unfortunately, it's the way American society is: you can brutally murder and decapitate 12 people in a pg-13 movie, but show a boob and it's an automatic R rating. It's pretty sad actually.
My advice would be to talk to your group and find out what level of detail - or lack thereof - they're comfortable with. Then go from there.
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How do you treat it? Do you roleplay it, and how often does it comes to the table?
Off screen. "And then they F*&^ED! The End." Touchy subject for our table since no one is getting laid (even the B&G who play with us).
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I've always liked the hated Book of Erotic Fantasy from 3.5 because of the notes about pregnancy. Who can get who pregnant, what are the odds, gestation times, symptoms and how they affect stats... I think that stuff is vastly interesting. I think the not-steamy part of sex is just as fascinating, if not more so, when it comes to tabletops.
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Ask Phil and Dixie.
Generally, don't let sex distract from the game. If the sex is disrupting the game, then you're doing it wrong. It's kind of a waste of everyone else's time to describe your sexual encounter. If two players want to roleplay out their encounter, then it's best they do it privately.
Intimate relationships come up in my campaign. Two players have characters in a lesbian relationship. A party NPC is the gunslinger's girlfriend. However, they keep it tactful. The most they do is say "The two of us go out on the town together" or show special concern when their significant other suffers a major injury. There was one touching moment where two PCs got afflicted with gradual petrification. When one turned to stone, the other embraced her and waited for the petrification to take its course.
Overall, relationships can add tremendous value to the game, but they're best done in a way that does not distract from the game.
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We treat it like magic item crafting
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We treat it like magic item crafting
Mundanes can't do it without a feat
must purchase materials in advance
You're not allowed to make a profit from it. WBL is there for a reason
Not even an option in Society play
If it gets interrupted it's ruined for the day
8 hours per day in an ideal environment... max.
Cannot make progress while fatigued
You can break it up into small increments while travelling but its at half effectiveness
A rope trick is not an ideal environment for it
If you're gonna do it, you can't just do it for yourself. You have to help the WHOLE PARTY
Funner to play with the band or in a duet than a solo performance trust me imma bard I know these things
Edit: had to roll a 6 lol luckily barely passed ;)
How do you treat it? Do you roleplay it, and how often does it comes to the table?
Someone mentioned relation ships are important I think ultimate campaign (might be wrong on book) relationship
Don't have to rp it like someone said long into the night or into the hour or 10 minutes if.your PC's are mature enough to handle a little (comedic) relief
Gotta use the called shot rules.
*calls shot* 8 ball corner pocket
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It is ignored. Unless there is a very specific need to describe a sexual encounter it is not actually important to the game. There is likely at least 4 other people at the table with you and it's unlikely they want to talk about your sexual fantasy. When I was a 15 year old boy who couldn't get a date such things may have intrigued me. As I drag on towards my 30's its not necessary to put the game on hold for 10 minutes for you to discuss your imaginary sexual conquests. To me every attempt to introduce sex into the game that I've ever seen has always been juvenile and immature, unless its merely a passing statement.
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"Do you accept my physical role play?"
"Let me show you my printing press."
"Can I use the rules for performance combat?"
"Let's take twenty on our check, my lady."
"Can I use Weapon Focus?"
"What about Weapon Specialization?"
"Can we use our teamwork feats?"
"Enlarge Person."
"Making my ride check..."
"Tap Inner Beauty!"
"Can I aid another?"
"Quick! Get the Halfling! He's Helpful!"
"This scroll of Summon Instrument is NOT what I thought it was..."
"Use Spectral Hand and Unseen Servant."
"Can you use Wild Shape?"
"Better, Extended Polymorph!"
"Ready? Roll initiative."
"Now, make a touch attack."
"Don't worry, I've got a Ring of Protection +5."
"Haste! Blessing of Fervor! Eagle's Splendor!"
"Natural 20!"
"Critical Confirmed!"
"Roll your damage..."
Children
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I've always liked the hated Book of Erotic Fantasy from 3.5 because of the notes about pregnancy. Who can get who pregnant, what are the odds, gestation times, symptoms and how they affect stats... I think that stuff is vastly interesting. I think the not-steamy part of sex is just as fascinating, if not more so, when it comes to tabletops.
I found a copy a while ago, and Ive got to agree with you. Despite the "immature" subject mater (and the god-awful art) it was quite a well made book, that covered it's subject matter well, going both ways (from monks of lust to paladins of chastity). And those stats on what can breed and cant are definitly interesting.
As for sex in games, yeah, "fade to black" will always be my standard if it's more than me and one other person. I imagine it could be a fun thing for a couple (one GM-ing, one playing) but with a group, it serves no purpose.
On the rare occasions the subject comes up ... er, arises ... I mean ... oh, forget it.
Anyway, we just 'fade to black'. You go someplace private, do your thing, then come back on-camera sometime later. No description or further mention of it is made.
Whether or not offspring result is plot-determined, since having a child is basically saying 'my PC is retiring'.
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We do the traditional and tasteful "fade to black."
I actually had a player flip the table on me in outrage because, apparently, he had been a victim of abuse and didn't take kindly to my incorporating something similar into the ongoing story (which, thankfully, didn't even involve his character).
It is ignored. Unless there is a very specific need to describe a sexual encounter it is not actually important to the game. There is likely at least 4 other people at the table with you and it's unlikely they want to talk about your sexual fantasy. When I was a 15 year old boy who couldn't get a date such things may have intrigued me. As I drag on towards my 30's its not necessary to put the game on hold for 10 minutes for you to discuss your imaginary sexual conquests. To me every attempt to introduce sex into the game that I've ever seen has always been juvenile and immature, unless its merely a passing statement.
This is very well put. Back when I was a sweaty, greasy tween, there was only one thing I wanted to do with Red Sonja, but I've grown up since then. I currently run social intrigue scenarios for a group I have been playing with for years, if not decades. While seduction and betrayal can be plot points in these scenarios, describing thrusting manhoods is (thank god) not a topic any of us are interested in anymore.
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Dang. My hour of editing has expired. Guess that'll have to do ^_^
You added that critical success bit too late m'boy!
Fort saves!
we roll
the perception check to seek out a worthy mate
the series of diplomacy, bluff or intimidate checks to convince the mate to join you for the night as a companion
the series of fortitude saves against fatigued, the endurance feat provides bonuses and nonlethal damage is akin to a forced march for each continuous hour
lesser restoration cures the fatigue
the activity counts as sleep or rest for the purpose of regaining per day abilities, despite having the ability to fatigue you
the female rolls a fort save against pregnancy with a bonus for protection
female PCs become NPCs because they are too handicapped to adventure
a drawback can allow females the inability to reproduce which gives them a free trait, but a penalty to diplomacy, bluff and intimidate checks against males whom know she can't reproduce, but also want an heir
Also, playing Vampire: The Masquerade, in the 90's, really ruined the idea of ever bringing it to the table.
It also ruined vampires, in general, for me.
Twilight did not help either.
In a game of Mage the Awakening we had a "Good" random encounter if you know what I mean.
It was really graphic. I was kinda surprised.
Anyway, I just do fade to black.
My group likes to roleplay it. Then again, were very mature and can handle it withouth getting into silly territory. Otherwise, its best to do fade to black when you dont know if everyone is okay with it.
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I've always liked the hated Book of Erotic Fantasy from 3.5 because of the notes about pregnancy. Who can get who pregnant, what are the odds, gestation times, symptoms and how they affect stats... I think that stuff is vastly interesting. I think the not-steamy part of sex is just as fascinating, if not more so, when it comes to tabletops.I found a copy a while ago, and Ive got to agree with you. Despite the "immature" subject mater (and the god-awful art) it was quite a well made book, that covered it's subject matter well, going both ways (from monks of lust to paladins of chastity). And those stats on what can breed and cant are definitly interesting.
As for sex in games, yeah, "fade to black" will always be my standard if it's more than me and one other person. I imagine it could be a fun thing for a couple (one GM-ing, one playing) but with a group, it serves no purpose.
Monks of lust have the best forms. Everyone looks forward to the demonstration at the tournament.
We do the traditional and tasteful "fade to black."
I actually had a player flip the table on me in outrage because, apparently, he had been a victim of abuse and didn't take kindly to my incorporating something similar into the ongoing story (which, thankfully, didn't even involve his character).
Well now, what did you do then?
Rein them in and explain what they just did was not okay (intimidate), talk them down and placate them (diplomacy) or roll initiative?
*Puffs in*
Lets see how much time it takes for this one to implode like the charm thread xP
*Puffs out*
PS: Fade to black. Always.
I think we can keep it light and sedate.
Right now we have a male gamer playing a female PC and a female gamer playing a male PC. The female PC has a crush on the male PC. Its obnoxiously confusing for everyone else at the table.
Fade to black +1
I've been in that situation myself. To add to the confusion, at least one of the two people involved (me) was gay, and I suspect that the other gamer was bisexual (but I never asked her). Amusingly, it stayed out of any beds and haylofts, although that wasn't always due to lack of trying.
I'm a strong advocate of the aforementioned fade to black. Even during my White Wolf days in the 90s ftb was the preferred option - if only because our characters likely had abilities we didn't want to think about too much in the circumstances involved. That didn't stop jokes about the Tremere with Animalism, of course. We were college students, after all.
As an anecdote: I did have a character return as a ghost one day, and more or less develop a platonic relationship with a former friend. It was very bittersweet, and far too romantic for most Pathfinder groups, I'm afraid.
It's largely taken off screen. A simple "I'm going to find some whores" and suddenly it's the next day. Someone I played with for a bit was a sex researcher and she'd play up some scenes a little, nothing raunchy. Good times.
The problems I've found with sex at a table is that;
- describing it to the entire table would be the equivalent of a "public display" you entire party might not be as interested as you might think in the fact that you favor the left over the right or if you go straight to the "main course" as opposed to having "soup first"
- A player who has sex with an npc for instance, if you GM is male, and he's supposed to interpret what a female lover would want, not only is there the barrier of gender, but possibly also of race and religion (pathfinder setting bound differences, not real world)
- getting into the vibe is rather hard when all you have to go on are descriptions, describing "thrusting your sword" is a lot less involved as actually doing so. so even if people are interested in hearing the description of some of the most mundane things on the world. It may just detract from its representation in the game. the culmination of a relationship you've developed with an npc, something that should be a RP peak, might fall flat on its face if you tried to describe it beyond "making passionate love"
- Time is another problem, assuming that having a decent go at mutual pleasure takes the better part of an hour, describing all your actions during the time is going to take equally long if both parties involved have to describe them. and you other players might not want to waste half an hour of game time while you describe getting it on, get it on, all night long.
In short, there is a reason to simply fade to black, not because of the mature subject matter, but because its simply not a good idea.
And I'm sure people will argue that it can work if properly done, which is true as defined by the word properly. the problem is that it can work just as well with fading to black, and is probably just as enjoyable. Let your imagination fill in the blanks, and it will be more romantic for everyone.
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The most we ever did at a table was have one character with Perform (Sex Act) and Find Heratio Mendareze as his skills. Then we broke down into talking about using things like bags of holding as essentially a female birth control device. Which broke down into making up magical sexually transmitted diseases. Like.. Portal Richard, Kitten of holding, Abolyth Cat, The Sticky Tower of the Frogman.
Very funny Espy!
Diekssus, if a dm isn't prepared to be and roleplay as actors of an opposite gender, religion or race, they are not ready to dm. Not being yourself is a basic dm skill.
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Very funny Espy!
Diekssus, if a dm isn't prepared to be and roleplay as actors of an opposite gender, religion or race, they are not ready to dm. Not being yourself is a basic dm skill.
I think there is a difference in being able to roleplay and to inherently understand the experience of having bits and bobs on your body that you simply don't have, nor necessarily how they experience something as sex. there is only so much imagination and empathy can do. It would be like trying to teach the meaning, existence and experience of color to a blind person.
Graphical descriptions did I only encounter when I was much younger and we all had no experience. The most graphical description was between two friends of mine, male and female. It was boring because it lasted for around an hour and occupied all the spotlight.
that's what usually happens in my experience, regardless of age though