Mounted Combat: if your mount charges, you also take the AC penalty associated with a charge. If you make an attack at the end of the charge, you receive the bonus gained from the charge. When charging on horseback, you deal double damage with a lance (see Charge).
scout charge: At 4th level, whenever a scout makes a charge, her attack deals sneak attack damage as if the target were flat-footed. Foes with uncanny dodge are immune to this ability.
Is receiving the bonus good enough to get the sneak attack from the scouts charge. On the one hand the mounts charging not you, however, you're the one directing the mount.
Yes, the Rogue needs as much love as it can get.
I would say getting your SA on a charge is quite the bonus.
Was thinking about a skulking slayer halforc who charges using an earthbreaker with the sap line. Is it ridiculous, absolutely. In fact it's so contradictory, that I felt it should have to exist.
Was thinking about a skulking slayer halforc who charges using an earthbreaker with the sap line. Is it ridiculous, absolutely. In fact it's so contradictory, that I felt it should have to exist.
Bold Strike (Ex)
At 3rd level, when a skulking slayer charges and makes a sneak attack with a two-handed weapon, she rolls d8s instead of d6s for her sneak attack damage.
Just...wow. Bludgeoner + Sap Adept + Sap Master...Pretty feat intensive, but, damn, that is a lot of dice to roll, and who has that many d8s?
The FAQ doesn't seem to address the situation at hand though.
The first section:
"One, because a lance only deals extra damage when you’re riding a charging mount—not when you are charging."
This is kinda the reverse bascially saying that you only get the lance damage when your mount is charging not you. It's close, but it's not really saying that you're not getting all the benefits of a charge (since I would be riding a mount).
the second section:
"Two, even if you have an unusual combination of rules that allows you to ignore the above limitation, it doesn’t makes sense that those iterative attacks gain the damage bonus. To make that second attack, you have to pull the lance back and stab forward again, and that stab doesn’t have the benefit of the charge’s momentum. (The Core Rulebook doesn’t state that you only get the damage multiplier on the first attack with a lance because when the Core Rulebook was published, there was no way for a PC to charge and get multiple attacks with a weapon in the same round, so that combination didn’t need to be addressed.)"
This only deals with iterative attacks. As a rogue I'm not looking to get iterative attacks at all.
I just don't see that FAQ as being explicit enough to rule hands down that you wouldn't get the bonus from scouts charge. (although I agree that I'm in extremely murky waters here)
If barbarians are allowed to use pounce while making a mounted charge then I would think that a scout rogue would be allowed to use his scout charge to sneak attack. Honestly, unless the rogue spends levels in something that grants a mount his mount will be made of glass. Making your mount not die in combat will also mean your rogue levels and therefor sneak attack lag behind. So its an exchange.
Anyways, I'd be inclined to allow it since I don't think it's much stronger than the alternative of doing it on foot (Sneak attack damage will never be multiplied by wielding a lance and double damage etc type deals) but I'm not actually sure whether or not its rules legal.
All I'm sure of is, if the barbarian gets pounce on a mounted charge then a the scout should get scout charge to count. If one doesn't, then the other doesn't.
However, I do think there has some indicaiton by developers though not in the quoted FAQ, that on mounted charges you don't count as actually charging despite recieving the penalties and bonuses which would indicate neither barbarian or rogue get their abilities.