Interactions between LE, LG, and CE


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion

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Well I had just been wondering the other day, "Hey, how do worshipers of deities of DRASTICALLY different alignments interact with each other?" Then I got to thinking, what if a Cleric of Asmodeus, a Paladin of Iomedae, and an Antipaladin of Lamashtu or Rovagug got together and were put in the same room. Obviously the Paladin and Antipaladin would clash, but who would the Cleric of Asmodeus get along better with? In my mind, he/she would be annoyed at the Paladin, thinking him self righteous and ineffective at bringing order to the world, and utterly despise the Antipaladin, who represents the worst in society, pure chaos.

Any thoughts? It doesn't necessarily have to be these deities, as it is the alignment of the deity that counts.

Sovereign Court

Michael Riter wrote:

Well I had just been wondering the other day, "Hey, how do worshipers of deities of DRASTICALLY different alignments interact with each other?" Then I got to thinking, what if a Cleric of Asmodeus, a Paladin of Iomedae, and an Antipaladin of Lamashtu or Rovagug got together and were put in the same room. Obviously the Paladin and Antipaladin would clash, but who would the Cleric of Asmodeus get along better with? In my mind, he/she would be annoyed at the Paladin, thinking him self righteous and ineffective at bringing order to the world, and utterly despise the Antipaladin, who represents the worst in society, pure chaos.

Any thoughts? It doesn't necessarily have to be these deities, as it is the alignment of the deity that counts.

P.S.

I realize the deity in question also takes into account as well, so let's just say in general, what would the interaction be like?


For a second there I thouhgt there was going to be a joke.

In the end, I think LE people are generally more tolerant of non-evil folk (especially non-chaotic), if only to better manipulate them.

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I think for sure the Cleric of Asmodeus would get along better with the Paladin of Iomedae. At least between the two, there will be a mutual understanding of the importance of contractual obligations and order. (Also, Lawful Evil doesn't necessarily mean malicious. Just ruthless. A merciless assassin who performs his duties without question, for instance, could still find common ground with a Paladin easily.)


Paladins and anti-paladins are fairly extreme examples. If we're talking clerics then there's an interesting thing to notice.

The same LN character would qualify to be either a priest of Asmodeus or a priest of Iomedae by pure alignment qualifications. Likewise a different NE character could qualify for either priest of Asmodeus or Lamashtu.

This is important to remember because a character's motivations or values can be completely different while still having the same alignment.

I don't think it's truly possible to say that their alignments will determine their behaviour in this situation. Each player you put in this situation might play their alignment differently.


I think that the LE person is likely to assess the other two and ally himself with the weaker of the two to defeat the stronger of them, and then he can turn on his ally.


Lawful Evil people get on pretty amiably with whoever. Good guys, Evil guys, it's all the same as long as they can work together towards his own-er, uh, a "mutual" benefit.

The Lawful Good guy is a bit of a crapshoot. He can either be a stick-up-the-ass goody good or a guy who likes to do good inside the law or their Code. That second one will get along fine with the LE guy if they need to work together. LE guys have a code of honor, and can be trusted to keep their word if you can get them to say it directly to your face.

The Chaotic Evil guy can also be one of two types: Puppykicker von Orphaneater, Lord of Burning Octagenarians, or a vicious sociopath who could very well align with the other two until he got bored and/or saw no point in helping them any more.

Neither of the Lawful types probably likes him very much, but the LE guy can see the benefits of a guided missile he can trust to cause chaos when need be, and the LG guy can see the benefits of at least keeping the guy in his sight while they must cooperate before tossing him in the nearest dungeon or killing him the first time he dips his big toe into the waters of evil and gets caught.


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There is no answer to this question. Alignments are not monolithic pigeonholes wherein every person acts the same and holds the same opinions and has the same personality. Neither are deities. Neither are classes.


Zhayne wrote:
There is no answer to this question. Alignments are not monolithic pigeonholes wherein every person acts the same and holds the same opinions and has the same personality. Neither are deities. Neither are classes.

Like how good looking the cleric of Lamashtu is, biases of the character, if the paladin is of the "ALL EVIL MUST BE PURGED!" type, if the GM thinks paladins fall for the even saying hello to the evil ones, what they know of eachother and their schemes, sense motive skill, etc. That list could go on for a while.

Shadow Lodge

They go to war.


Between CG, LG, and LE, the LG would join with CG against LE.
Between LG, LE, and CE, the LE would join with LG against CE.
Between LE, CE, and CG, the CE would join with LE against CG.
Between CE, CG, and LG, the CE would join with CG to blow raspberries at LG.

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