An entry in another thread got me thinking about a campaign where one of the many races of a world decide they are the master race and commence a war of ethnic cleansing and enslavement against all others.
The conundrum is they don't see themselves as evil for what they are doing. They believe what they are doing is for the good of their people. How would this affect classes like Paladins or other characters of good alignments who believe in this philosophy?
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welcome to every religious and political entity in the real world ever.
God is objective in golarion. Either you houserule, or your paladins fall.
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The conundrum is they don't see themselves as evil for what they are doing. They believe what they are doing is for the good of their people. How would this affect classes like Paladins or other characters of good alignments who believe in this philosophy?
IMO and all that, but what they believe doesn't matter. Most evil folks don't see themselves as evil. Even the ones committing genocide.
Those are the kind of people paladins and other characters of good alignments need to be fighting against.
How would this affect classes like Paladins or other characters of good alignments who believe in this philosophy?
Welcome to alignment, its muddy and weird. That said, two paladins can disagree over things and fight on two different sides. A good faction can have evil people and an evil one can have good. What's important is that they are lawful and try to do something good.
Or you know, just use house rules. Most rulings about alignment are about the DM anyway.
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Already about Paladin alignment.
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Pathfinder racism is ok. Just smite the racists. That's why the PCs can deal with it by sword and spell rather than trying to roleplay thousands of years of socio-political diplomacy.
It is a lost cause on Golarion anyway.
This is not a debate about white man/black man intelligence/virility or any of those silly ideas, but a quantifiable measure of racial superiority.
Elves, Humans and Dwarves are objectively better at many things, and it can be quantified. Even the Orcs have their own rudimentary eugenics programme. They use rape-baby Half-Orcs as their brains.
Elves, Humans and Dwarves are objectively better at many things, and it can be quantified. Even the Orcs have their own rudimentary eugenics programme. They use rape-baby Half-Orcs as their brains.
...out of the races balanced for play as characters. A look through the bestiary easily could give you plenty of examples of creatures that are far strong, faster, and smarter than those races and the only reason they do not rule everything is because they do not reproduce like rabbits.
Even elves and dwarves must look like march hares when put on the timescale of dragons. So having a long reaching perspective might be useful if you want to bring some more moral relativity into the mix, since they might of witnessed the first human settlers of a land and saw the forests torn down, the rivers soiled, and steel factories rise up.
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An entry in another thread got me thinking about a campaign where one of the many races of a world decide they are the master race and commence a war of ethnic cleansing and enslavement against all others.
Wasn't that one of the tropes in the Dark Sun setting? I'd imagine there will be some sort of ecological disaster would come with that. Seas of Silt and deranged halflings.
How would this affect classes like Paladins or other characters of good alignments who believe in this philosophy?
Probably they'll lose touch with their gods and have to worship some sort of Sorcerer King to get their powers. Either that or gain some kind of psionics to compensate.
Yeah...it standard Pathfinder good and evil are pretty objectively defined. Not to say there aren't occasional places of moral ambiguity, but any paladin or good aligned cleric who acts as part of the racial cleansing enslaving group is objectively evil by the standards of good. What they think is irrelevant. They will lose their powers, and extremely fast.
The standard setting has little to no moral ambiguity, and just because a character is unaware of their evil nature does not make them less evil. And generally, the clerics and paladins would be aware of this, as the whole frenzyy begins and they should try to stop it. Fighting against the crazy racist homicidal humans it if necessary.
