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Hi guys,

I've already read this answer on some other threads but it came up today in our lunch hour game so hopefully, you won't mind if I re-ask so that I feel solid on the rule.

Ezren flipped over a Potion of Healing during an explore. The item has an Intelligence or Craft acquisition check to it.

I had Ezren roll a D12 +2 to try and get it because under Intelligence on his card it says:

Arcane: Intelligence +2
Knowledge: Intelligence +2

Now I swear I've read on some posts that I get the +2 on the check here because I only need to look for the word "Intelligence". I shouldn't think I only get that +2 on Arcane or Knowledge checks.

Am I correct on this?

Embarrassed Ben

Side Note: the same thing could be said with Sajan rolling a non-weapon attack. He gets d10+2 because Acrobatics: Dexterity +2 is on his card under skills.
Silver Crusade

No, he shouldn't get the +2. His Intelligence is 1d12. The +2 is only for Arcane or Knowledge specific checks, which this isn't.

What Fromper said

Sighhhhh - I don't know why I keep getting that all mixed up in my darn head.

What about Sajan? Does he not get the +2 on his Dex combat checks?

Gads - I am falling apart today:(

Nope, you only get the bonus when you roll the said sub-skill

Yeash - that makes Sajan base attack rather miserable:( Still, that's good to know as we were totally giving him that +2 at lunch today.

I finally found the Board Game Geek thread that had me twisted in knots on this subject..

"All you need to look for is the word ARCANE on the character sheet. If it appears then roll the indicated die and apply the bonus. If it does not appear then roll a d4. Don't worry about which one it is on different character sheets, just look at the character sheet of the character making the check."

Link: http://boardgamegeek.com/article/13553565#13553565

I'm not trying to call Joseph out here in any malicious way. I'm just a little confused on why he wrote that. I'm sure it was just pointing out a skill vs. a sub skill.

Ben
Cheez wrote:

Yeash - that makes Sajan base attack rather miserable:( Still, that's good to know as we were totally giving him that +2 at lunch today.

I finally found the Board Game Geek thread that had me twisted in knots on this subject..

"All you need to look for is the word ARCANE on the character sheet. If it appears then roll the indicated die and apply the bonus. If it does not appear then roll a d4. Don't worry about which one it is on different character sheets, just look at the character sheet of the character making the check."

Link: http://boardgamegeek.com/article/13553565#13553565

I'm not trying to call Joseph out here in any malicious way. I'm just a little confused on why he wrote that. I'm sure it was just pointing out a skill vs. a sub skill.

Ben

What he is referring to here is that ARCANE is a keyword listed in the check that he is trying to do.

In your case the INTELLIGENCE and CRAFT are the keywords listed. In your case ARCANE is not listed in the check. That is the difference.

Gotcha - thanks, NariusV. That's a great way to look at it.

Sorta makes me think putting a +1 in Ezren's Intelligence when that first skill feat comes up is a no brainer.
NariusV wrote:
Cheez wrote:

Yeash - that makes Sajan base attack rather miserable:( Still, that's good to know as we were totally giving him that +2 at lunch today.

I finally found the Board Game Geek thread that had me twisted in knots on this subject..

"All you need to look for is the word ARCANE on the character sheet. If it appears then roll the indicated die and apply the bonus. If it does not appear then roll a d4. Don't worry about which one it is on different character sheets, just look at the character sheet of the character making the check."

Link: http://boardgamegeek.com/article/13553565#13553565

I'm not trying to call Joseph out here in any malicious way. I'm just a little confused on why he wrote that. I'm sure it was just pointing out a skill vs. a sub skill.

Ben

What he is referring to here is that ARCANE is a keyword listed in the check that he is trying to do.

In your case the INTELLIGENCE and CRAFT are the keywords listed. In your case ARCANE is not listed in the check. That is the difference.

Follow up question: If a check has Intelligence / Arcane +2, and the Seoni has Charisma / Arcane +2, does Seoni roll her Intelligence roll and still get the +2 for Arcane, or can she roll her CHA +2 for Arcane, or does Seoni only roll her Intelligence?

Silver Crusade

If a check calls for Intelligence/Arcane, it means you use your Intelligence skill OR your Arcane skill. The two aren't linked.

In Seoni's case, her Arcane skill is Charisma +2, so that's what she rolls for anything related to Arcane.
Fromper wrote:

If a check calls for Intelligence/Arcane, it means you use your Intelligence skill OR your Arcane skill. The two aren't linked.

In Seoni's case, her Arcane skill is Charisma +2, so that's what she rolls for anything related to Arcane.

Thanks Fromper! That's how I interpreted it, and it makes sense from an RPG standpoint as well.

Cheers,

Mark
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