Divine Ranger of Shelyn - looking for options

[Feuerrabe]

Hello,

I am looking for a Paizo prestige class or maybe an archetype I might apply in retrospect that puts some more emphasize on the divine aspect of ranger.

I was considering to multiclass as a Ranger / Cleric of Shelyn with this character in future: http://paizo.com/people/ShaliraLebeda

But I don't really like the idea of having two separate divine caster classes, as marginal as the ranger's spells may.

Does anyone have a good suggestion on this?

Regargs,
Feuerrabe

[Cathulhu]

Divine Scion prestige class?

[Feuerrabe]

Well. I looked at. Picking up this presitige class on top of a ranger I loose three points of base attack bonus, I'd have to pick up Weapon Focus (Glaive) even though I am a two weapon ranger, I'd have to pick up Iron Will even though I already took the "Indomitable Faith" trait. The skill requirements are pretty steep as well. Besides the fact that it doesn't make a lot sense that a class that works intuitive requires knowledge skills, which in turn requires studying books.

From an in-character perspective I'd honor Shelyn more by picking up a craft or perform skill.

I would get some interesting class features, but clearly not worth the cost.

I don't really see the point of this class. I can't imagine any character to which it would be actually useful. To clerics and druids it isn't worth cutting their own class features, to paladins and rangers it isn't worth sacrificing their base attack bonus. And multiclassing before getting there would be outright dumb.

[Rashagar]

What is it you want from a ranger/cleric type character? Which aspects of both classes are you looking to focus on? If you want a ranger flavour with more emphasis on spellcasting you might be better off only taking a couple of levels of ranger, getting 3 levels of cleric and then going into grey warden or nature warden or something. Or are you looking more for a communing with your deity feel? If homebrew is a thing then you could reflavour the spherewalker to Shelyn, maybe by trading out your ranger spellcasting entirely and then choosing the Shelyn-themed domains to cast from with the spherewalker levels. This'd let you get access to a select few 5th level spells. What levels are you going to be playing from/til? Since most prestige classes come into their own at fairly high levels.

[Cathulhu]

I would only dip Divine Scion for weapon specialization. Literally, one level. Shelyn flavor it by saying it reflects your art with the glaive.

[MrSin]

Why not just be a ranger who worships Shelyn or a Cleric who considers himself a ranger? Its important to know what youw ant out of mixing the two. If its just flavor then that's easy to do without multiclassing or PrCs, but if its a particular mechanic then its a little more difficult.

Feuerrabe wrote:

I don't really see the point of this class. I can't imagine any character to which it would be actually useful. To clerics and druids it isn't worth cutting their own class features, to paladins and rangers it isn't worth sacrificing their base attack bonus. And multiclassing before getting there would be outright dumb.

Most PrCs and multiclassing options in pathfinder kinda' suck.

[Feuerrabe]

Those are some good ideas.

It's both I guess. I want to play a ranger with just the bit more connection to her deity. The idea that hoped for was some archetype that sacrifices favoured terrain for domain spells or something like.

The idea came after a discussion that the cleric of the group might be off and I started calculating. With a half-elf multiclassing is always tempting.

Going for ranger 12 / cleric 8 would not be entirely pointless, I'd sacrifice two points of base attack bonus to get a load of low level spells, have an enormeous number of class skills and so forth, I'have all the interesting ranger class features, just not to the same extend, but I could live with that. But ultimately, on level 20 I'd have two divine classes one of which has caster level 8 and the other 9. It may have advantages on lower levels but wouldn't be very effective.

I must say, at the moment I am favouring to just stick with ranger. So she has only mundane means to heal - that's better than nothing. And a character doesn't nescessarily need divine powers to be somewhat connected to a deity. I was considering "Profession (Stylist)" for example - if the other characters are fine with that. Create something beautiful every day - or at least shed the best light on something that is already beautiful. Not exactly typical for a ranger, who spends a lot time alone in the wilderness, but as part of a group...

[DM Papa.DRB]

If your DM is open to non official sources, the MCArchetypes site has a Ranger/Cleric hybrid HERE that looks interesting.

-- david

[Feuerrabe]

Already suggested that one and the DM said "no". For good reasons I suppose...

One point base attack bonus on every level, a d10 hit dice but still considerably more powerful casting than a ranger or paladin. Sure, less than a bard or magus, but still a lot. This class has some good ideas and I'd like it. But I suppose it should define more clearly what levels are ranger levels and what are cleric levels and which class features are replaced with what. Say, you strike ranger spellcasting altogether, but you get the nature domain or subdomain on top and can cast one spell from that domain additional to your own domains. Or maybe let every third ranger class level grant a cleric caster level, but then the effective caster level in the end would only be 12, assuming ranger 12 / cleric 8. And leave the progression on base attack bonus and saving throws just as the base classes imply...

[XMorsX]

You could go with a cleric of Erastil or Gozreh with the Feather and Growth subdomains. This will give a nature feeling to your cleric.

You can go for an oracle with the nature mystery, taking Bonded Mount and Nature’s Whispers as your first revelations.